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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

This project is like the energizer bunny. It keeps going and going and going... Meanwhile, I'm reaching the "I'm flipping sick of it" stage..


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On the drivers side rear corner, I sanded all the metal and paint down and then treated the surface rust w/a rust converter/sealer. Once it fully cured, I skim coated the previously dented area up to smooth it's appearance out. I used a fine, finishing filler which sands easy.

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This passenger side corner had some remaining rust between the battery pan and rear fender wheel. I had to remove the rest of the body sealer and found it. The rust was removed and treated.

I started sanding the rest of the engine compartment prior to repaint. It's pretty tedious work. The goal was to scuff the original paint in the compartment w/320 sand paper but the original factory paint is not thick in the compartment and there were a few nicks that had rust under them.

After a few hours of sanding, I did a quick tape off to spray some high build primer inside the compartment and on the outside corner.

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The is the drivers side rear corner. It looks MUCH better skimmed with filler/sanded and primered.

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This picture is off the passenger side in high builder 2k primer.


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Just some other pictures of repaired areas back in primer.

I'm just shocked how time consuming this project has become. Granted, I've had to fix a lot of previous poor work. It still burning up a lot of time..
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

Proper paint and body work take time, it looks like your doing a great job. You have some single stage mixed up for final coat or what?
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

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Proper paint and body work take time, it looks like your doing a great job. You have some single stage mixed up for final coat or what?


Thanks for the kudos. You're not lying, it's taking a long time forsure. I would of never guessed it would have taken this long! d'oh!

Yes, I'm going to use single stage for the rear outer tub and the engine compartment. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

I went to the automotive paint supply house. I needed some L87 Pearl White paint for the engine compartment and engine lid back. This was the original color of this bus. I'm going to repaint the bus in that color in the near future.

While I was there, I asked about them mixing up the paint and then putting it into spray cans. She said no problem. I did this because I don't have a small paint gun. I struggled to prime the compartment because my gun was too big.

This morning, I caulked the battery trays/pans. I let it dry for an hour and then the instructions said you can paint over it.

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I was able to really get a lot of the urethane primer in the joints of the battery pans after the rust converter. The caulking was put in after the primer had hardened overnight. Hopefully it will hold back the rust for decades to come.

I then used a shop vacuum to really vacuum out all the dust, dirt and debris from inside the compartment. This was followed by wiping everything down with a water based grease remover. The spray cans with the automotive paint in them worked really well. They laid out the paint very nicely. I did a light coat, let it flash then followed it with a second, heavy coat.


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It looks SSSOOO much better than before. I'd imagine it's what it looked like when it was new 46 years ago.

I then moved onto the engine lid. It too looked horrible. It has some surface rust at the seams. I sanded it down and used various sanding discs to remove all the rust. I then followed it up by soaking the seams in a rust converter/sealer. I'll follow that up with a couple of coats of urethane primer and then paint. After it's painted, I'm going to shoot inside it some rust preventer.


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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

Nothing better than fresh paint. My bus was also perl white. I wish I would have done the same when I painted my engine bay.. I sprayed it krylon gloss white Embarassed

I was thinking of ordering from this place, https://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/order-form.cgi hows the price comparable from going to a local paint shop?
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

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Nothing better than fresh paint. My bus was also perl white. I wish I would have done the same when I painted my engine bay.. I sprayed it krylon gloss white Embarassed

I was thinking of ordering from this place, https://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/order-form.cgi hows the price comparable from going to a local paint shop?


I think it was about $50 for the paint to be mixed into a 1/2 pint and then put in the spray cans. The paint was $20 mixed and the cans were about $13 each. So, it wasn't too bad cost wise for a good, Sherman Williams automotive paint.

I think if someone else wanted to repaint their engine compartment and it only needed sanding, minor filler work, etc, they could be all in for $100 dollars for the materials.

My bus was poorly painted a VW blue and white on top of poor body work. It looks good from 10 feet but I absolutely HAAATTTEEE the blue. My gal is constantly asking or TELLING me she wants it painted this original color it was delivered in when new. I "gently" suggest she could come out and "enjoy" all the sanding and blocking with me and that usually quiets her down. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

Lol sanding is the worst, I refinished my pop top after the PO took a belt sander to it and made a ton of groves. That was a fiberglass dust nightmare, I had to buy a real mask for that one.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2016 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

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Lol sanding is the worst, I refinished my pop top after the PO took a belt sander to it and made a ton of groves. That was a fiberglass dust nightmare, I had to buy a real mask for that one.


Couldn't agree more! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

I had a chance to play w/the bus over the weekend. I needed to work on the rear apron. I knew it had some dents, dings and surface rust on it. If I had half a brain, I'd of realized I could have saved myself hours by taking it to get stripped/blasted by a media blaster.

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Here's the beauty! Ain't she purty!

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So, back to being not so bright. The whole underside was covered in a layer of surface rust. Thankfully, no rot. I used various things to strip the rust off the back of it. What a pain. I was cussing myself while I spent 2.5 hours removing the rust.

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Then, I had to knock the dents out of primarily the bottom edge.

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Once it was straight and rust free, I sprayed it with a rust converter/sealer. I'll put a coat of urethane primer over it as well as the paint. The bottom edge will need a skim coat of filler to get it nice and straight.

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I then blocked out the corner of the bus followed by another thick coat of primer. I'm hoping Pray it will be the final blocking/coat.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

Looking good!!!
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

richparker wrote:
Looking good!!!


Thanks Rich!

I'm continuing to chip away at this to get it finished before the real summer heat arrives in Phoenix.

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Like the majority of our 45+ YO VW's, this bus is littered with these FLAPS crimp connectors. I really don't like them as they look really out of place. I finally sourced the correct crimper and German connectors to rid my VW's of those non-oem pieces.

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I should've bought that tool and the oem barrel connectors years ago. I installed the electrical back into the engine bay. I had to remove the previous persons overspray off a bunch of the black wire conduit. I installed new barrel connectors as needed.

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I need to install the sound deadener in the fuel tank bay and install the tank. I'm still doing the final body work on the engine lid and rear apron. I hope to have all the body work done tomorrow and everything painted by the end of the day. I want to be driving the bus by Friday.

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I dusted the rear end with guide coat. I haven't used the stuff in a while. WOW, does it really help get things flat and straight. While I had to do a total of 3 different applications of urethane high build and blockings, it really turned out nice and straight.

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Here's the engine lid and apron going thru final stages of body work. Did I mention if you're going to do this to your engine lid and apron and they are a bit rusty, TAKE THEM TO A MEDIA blaster. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

Looking good!

Got a link for the connectors and crimping tool?
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

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Here's the engine lid and apron going thru final stages of body work. Did I mention if you're going to do this to your engine lid and apron and they are a bit rusty, TAKE THEM TO A MEDIA blaster. Laughing


yea, I will never understand why people just don't go and get stuff blasted...soooo much faster and cheaper in the long run
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

Vee Dub Nut wrote:
Looking good!

Got a link for the connectors and crimping tool?


Thanks!

Here ya go.



http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1222186

I bought the connectors from both Amazon and then a bunch from Goodspeed. What I was challenged with was the 4MM ring terminal. I bought them from Goodspeed but.. they are for a bigger gauge wire, like a 14 gauge. They are tough to crimp correctly on the 16-18 gauge wires that I needed them for. The best deal was for the 100 of the 6.4mm female terminals. They are for the 16-18 gauge wire and crimp beautifully.

Goodspeed sells the large female connector for the push in generator. My 67 bug had the wrong generator in it. I sourced a correct 67 generator. I had to replace the aftermarket ring connector with the correct female push in one. It worked perfectly and now that engine looks original and correct.
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

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Here's the engine lid and apron going thru final stages of body work. Did I mention if you're going to do this to your engine lid and apron and they are a bit rusty, TAKE THEM TO A MEDIA blaster. Laughing


yea, I will never understand why people just don't go and get stuff blasted...soooo much faster and cheaper in the long run


I know, I know... Brick wall

After wasting HOURS removing the rust from the back side of the bumpers, you'd of thought I'd of learned something..


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Sometimes, I simply feel like this guy.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

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These may be crimped wrong.
Look down the barrel of a terminal and notice there is a split in it. You want the dimple on the opposite side of this split.
Good luck
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These were the non-oem ones that were removed. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

My bad.
Bus is looking good
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

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Looking good!

Got a link for the connectors and crimping tool?


Thanks!

Here ya go.

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Excellent.. Thank you sir!
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

Wish I would have seen those connectors before I redid all my under dash wiring! damn.

EDIT: Also what rebuild kit would you recommend for an OG 30pict 3 carb? I don't want to use crappy empi gaskets and stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: The journey of a new 1970 Westfalia owner. The fixes begin. Reply with quote

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Wish I would have seen those connectors before I redid all my under dash wiring! damn.


Well, you can always freshen the wiring back up down the road. Smile Honestly, I wanted to get rid of the FLAPS connectors where they are very obvious and in sight. The engine compartment is an example. I've seen lots of beautifully restored engines that are missing these correct German open barrel connectors.
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EDIT: Also what rebuild kit would you recommend for an OG 30pict 3 carb? I don't want to use crappy empi gaskets and stuff.


The only kit I bought recently was an EMPI one. It was ok. I only really needed the accelerator diaphragm. I never use the hard parts in those kits. I know Robbie bought a kit at I think at O'Reily's auto parts that was very good. Maybe he'll see this or someone else might have a suggestion for a good rebuild kit that's not EMPI brand and comment on it.
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