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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:54 am    Post subject: Couple of snaps of where we are up to Reply with quote

Rust! fortunately its surface only in the main, I don't really want to blast it as sand is a pain to clean up afterwards plus i don't have the equipment , so powertools and elbow grease at the ready, along with some chemicals.

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I think i will probably have to cut some parts away to repair the worst parts.

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The right side inner wing area is worse than the left except for the vent/drain/duct.

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Somewhere in the cars past an attempt was made to wax protect it, unfortunately it was not done very well, so some areas are showing original primer whereas others show deep pitting. Hey ho.
More to follow later.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO sandblasting is drastic buy doable. You might as well finish the welding,wire wheel the flakey stuff & brush on MasterSeries etc silver and black on both sides. It should look good for another 40 years!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:46 am    Post subject: Some more progress Reply with quote

Even though its freezing cold in the cave, i've managed a bit more

The rusty hole looks a bit better once its been cleaned off, treated and zinc primed.
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The other side turned out similar.

Did this too, LH C pillar inner

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its also been treated and primed.

Next is the last remaining bad bit, RH rear inner wing and base of C pillar

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However this should fix most of it, it just need a bit of modifying to be age correct and then its spot weld removal time.

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More next week, hopefully
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: Some more progress Reply with quote

260KMN wrote:
Even though its freezing cold in the cave, i've managed a bit more

Next is the last remaining bad bit, RH rear inner wing and base of C pillar

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However this should fix most of it, it just need a bit of modifying to be age correct and then its spot weld removal time.

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More next week, hopefully


That should fix a bunch of it real quick. Twisted Evil Nice find. Cool
The car is looking good. You're really gaining on it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bob, i'm getting there slowly. Plan is to try and have the shell ready for paint by summer, so i'm trying to keep motivated and keep going.
Thanks for looking.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:34 am    Post subject: More repairs Reply with quote

Time to start on the RH rear inner wing repair.
First drill out loads of spot welds.
Seeing as how the top rear most part was ok i decided to leave it in situ.

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here it is, removed.

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Bit of modification required to make them the same year wise.

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As expected some surface inside, but also some rot.

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Nothing that can't be fixed though, with a bit of patience.

Thats all for now.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good progress! Just curious as to what you are using to treat the metal before you prime it? I've just bought the POR 15 metal etch, but I think it's all pretty much the same -phosporic acid.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bob, i use POR15 metal prep, its probably the same stuff you use. Whether its any use, only time will tell. Obviously i remove as much surface rust as possible before application. Any deep rust/rot i always cut out.
No more progress today as the pub was more important, plus its cold outside. More to follow.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can definitely tell that's a RHD car, as LHD cars seem to rust like that on the left side. Wink
Nice job though. Looking forward to the next update. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:15 am    Post subject: latest repairs Reply with quote

Its been awhile since i was on here, sorry for the slackness but work has been getting in the way, although on my latest trip to Indy, harbor freight had shrinker/stretchers on sale at what worked out as less than £100 for the pair so had to have one. Made my suitcase so heavy that the TSA opened it up and left their calling card, got them home safely though.

So i was starting to repair the last big rusty part of the shell.
I had removed the inner wing panel which revealed the expected rust but some was not very accessible so i removed some more bits.

Part of the drain ducts
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remaining inner arch

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repaired the other part of the duct with the flappy bit, ready for reinstallation
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And modified the big repair panel to look more age correct, not the best repair but i'm no pro.
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and last one for now i finally cut out the inner part of the C panel ready to fix. It was very rusty but the seatbelt anchor piece is reuseable.

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Whilst i am on here, lower front seatbelt mounts, anyone got pictures of theirs, my car had two point belts with no mounting point on the floor/ channel area, where should they actually be mounted, on the floor pan or heater channel?
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 12:25 am    Post subject: More rust repairs Reply with quote

My day job has been getting in the way once more so have not updated this for a while.
Here's a short update on the continuing RH rear corner repairs, if any one is actually following this.
This area is super complicated to replicate due to all the different panels, all of which have some form of tricky curve involved.

First picture shows the number of panels i had to repair/fabricate for this area

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Duct area repaired and reinstalled with some gash welding i might add, although the side you will be able to see is neat

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Upper boot area had rusted through so a small repair was needed here too

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Couple of views of the gutter area repairs, this part seems to have taken for ever, mainly because i had nothing to work too except trying to copy the other side, which appears to be completely rust free.

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Its coming together slowly and looks a million times better than it did.
More next week, hopefully i should be in a position to nail the big piece on.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: More rust repairs Reply with quote

260KMN wrote:
My day job has been getting in the way once more so have not updated this for a while.
Here's a short update on the continuing RH rear corner repairs, if any one is actually following this.
This area is super complicated to replicate due to all the different panels, all of which have some form of tricky curve involved.

First picture shows the number of panels i had to repair/fabricate for this area

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Duct area repaired and reinstalled with some gash welding i might add, although the side you will be able to see is neat

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Upper boot area had rusted through so a small repair was needed here too

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Couple of views of the gutter area repairs, this part seems to have taken for ever, mainly because i had nothing to work too except trying to copy the other side, which appears to be completely rust free.

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Its coming together slowly and looks a million times better than it did.
More next week, hopefully i should be in a position to nail the big piece on.


Really nice work there. Cool Your "C" post repairs remind me of my own Notch, that needed all 3 layers repaired too. Shocked
But yes, I do agree with you, in that there are a lot of little pieces tucked in there that you don't see.
You're gaining on it, and getting closer to putting a coat of paint on it. Cool Looking forward to seeing the next update.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The seat belt mount/nut is on or inside the heater channel at the bottom of the B pillar. There is another mount high on the B pillar for 3 point seat belts. They didn't come with seat belts until 1967.
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the encouragement Bob.
Also thanks to Mike for the seatbelt info, i guessed it was probably on the channel.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:09 am    Post subject: Further adventures in rustland Reply with quote

Finally after weeks of faffing about and ten different repair pieces the rear corner repair is on.

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The visible bits i tried to replicate the original arrangement, the hidden bits dont matter too much. Just needs a small filler skim to complete

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Inner C pillar repaired just needs grinding down once the parcel shelf corner piece is in.

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Unfortunately after digging around a bit i found more rot, this time in the front corner of the inner wing and the body mount. So two steps forward two back.

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Going to try and repair this, wish me luck.

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Glad i removed this as there is some surface rust inside the box, but its fixable.

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Thanks for looking, more to follow.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:52 pm    Post subject: More boring rust repair pictures Reply with quote

Well the RH C post repair is done finally, looks ok , if i say so myself, outside and inside, certainly looks better than before and is rot free now.

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I also made a start on the RH rear body mount, i made a couple of repair panels to be let in later.

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I'm away to Indy once again on monday for two weeks, so no progress for a bit but will post when i'm back on it.
Not much welding left now on the body, pan is next, which is actually pretty good.
Cheers for now and thanks for looking, those that actually are.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep it going! The work so far is great. This is a really cool early notch that needs to be on the road. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great progress 260KMN! Way to tackle those areas and knock them out.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments guys
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: More boring rust repair pictures Reply with quote

260KMN wrote:
Well the RH C post repair is done finally, looks ok , if i say so myself, outside and inside, certainly looks better than before and is rot free now.

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I also made a start on the RH rear body mount, i made a couple of repair panels to be let in later.

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I'm away to Indy once again on monday for two weeks, so no progress for a bit but will post when i'm back on it.
Not much welding left now on the body, pan is next, which is actually pretty good.
Cheers for now and thanks for looking, those that actually are.


That whole corner repair looks fantastic. Cool Nice job on the "C" post too. That area is a difficult area to repair, due to the multiple layers.
Great job. Very Happy Now go have a couple of cold ones, you deserve it. Cool
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