Genuine Barndoor Safaris

Scotty · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:06 am Post subject: Genuine Barndoor Safaris

Could those of you that have genuine safaris in your barndoors post up some pics of the dash tabs and catches etc please, be even better if they were factory fitted, thanks.
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NOS PARTS · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:50 am Post subject:

here pics of factory safari 54, - frames....

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if trying to put together a "correct set";

latches all the same 50-67
latch gasket all the same
latch screws all the same-chrome
dash tabs are the same til late 59-60
dash screws (3 different styles 50-59-60, 60-63, 64-67)
weld in brackets will have square nuts on back, til 67 or later will have square nuts on back, but grounded corners of square
slider all the same til 67
slider rivet spring washer all the same
slider rivet early with smooth face, later one has machining spirals=always plated steel, NEVER alum
fiber washer all the same
bevel edge metal washers all the same
1 eyed duck same as up to 63, 64-67 will be later style with bigger mouth
glass to frame seal unique to BD frames=same profile as early pop out
frame scraper seal unique to BD frames=same profile as pop out til 67
frame to body seal unique to BD frames
wiper disconect unique to BD=similar to 55-63, but shaft longer, as well as brass threaded bushing longer to clear BD wiper grommet

hoping that help

Scotty · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:18 am Post subject:

Thanks for your help david
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Kasten68 · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:35 am Post subject:

here's a picture of og safari's on my 54 BD

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jmsmilin · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:46 am Post subject:

KILLERWATT · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:59 am Post subject:

I don't know if this is any help but here's Rafferty's @ CTS

BeaterBarndoor · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:15 am Post subject:

here are some shots of gatorwyatts original safari'd truck.

note as NOSParts listed, the BD welded nuts are squared

whereas the later ones are rounded on the corners

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Scotty · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:39 am Post subject:

It was the dash tabs that I needed to check on. I thought all flat top dash tabs were the same, but I had been told barndoor ones were different to 55 on buses. Unless anyone can tell me different then they're the same. The only thing I can think of being slightly different is that they don't have a curve to their base as the barndoor 'dash' is flat compared to later buses. It's proving difficult to find a genuine safari barndoor to check as these parts are easily swapped out
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BeaterBarndoor · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:22 am Post subject:

thats interesting.never heard of the tabs being different but its always possible. i just looked in my parts book which is mainly post bd but does have bd parts in it. it does tell that the outer(tall) tabs are 20-117xxx and later but the inner(shorter) tabs there is no indication of year change. i was thinking maybe they were taller than later? but i just looked at my 53 which im pretty confident i have post bd tabs and nothing looks out of place. all parts line up fine, no large gaps from latch to tab.
be interesting to see proof of any difference.
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Scotty · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:47 am Post subject:

So the og brackets I have are for later buses (with chamfered corners) and I think I have a 64-67 one eyed duck..... Anyone got any pics of the late duck?

Anyone got a source for the slider rivets and the fibre washers?

Does anyone make barndoor length wiper disengagers? I was going to buy some new ones and modify them
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gatorwyatt · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:17 am Post subject:

BeaterBarndoor · Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:24 am Post subject:

gatorwyatt · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:19 am Post subject:

well...scotty the answer you needed came yesterday when i atempted to install some outer(tall)dash tabs and the screw holes didnt line up.it looks like the bottom of the tabs are shorter to allow the tabs to have enough room on the dash to keep from apppearing to be falling off the dash or hang over the edge...
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Scotty · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:17 am Post subject:

Thanks for that info!
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Scotty · Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:17 am Post subject:

You can see in the following pics that it looks like barndoor dash tabs are completely different to later buses, the top looks like it has convex curve to the top of it rather than being flat or having a concave curve like the 55 on tabs

I can't make out the tabs near the centre window bar or the passenger side but the tab on the drivers side clearly has a curved top

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gatorwyatt · Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:13 am Post subject:

the screw holes dont line up for the factory dash and the factory tabs...
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Monkeyspinner · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject:

I can't remember which photos i sent you exactly but just incase here's a couple...

BeaterBarndoor · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject:

so according to these photos and what is written in my later parts book, maybe this makes sense...
the inner/center(shorter) seems to be the same as a later domed dash tab which in my book just has a part number and its description, whereas the outer(taller) tab is obviously different than a later domed tab. also in my book it has its part number and description but also reads "from chassis 20-117 902,making it barndoor/post BD specific. the shorter one does not have any chassis cutoff #s.
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Scotty · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:48 am Post subject:

I got some other photos from someone with og safaris and it looks like the short tab has the same dims as a later one, but has the slightly different shaped top like the long one monkeyspinner posted above. I haven't seen too many later flat top dash tabs but the ones I have seen have perfect radiused corners where as the barndoor ones seem to have a slight corner to them, and a slight curve to the top. The later ones I saw were flat along the top edge.

I think the short one monkeyspinner posted is a later one, it looks like it has a flat top compared to the short one in the pics I posted
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Monkeyspinner · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:14 am Post subject:


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