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PolarBearVW Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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Just to be clear on this sticky...the 1974 coupe does NOT have the upper chrome channel. I was in my garage until midnight tearing through boxes and sweating up in the crawlspace looking for 2 lost pieces of trim that never existed.
This may be true of 72-74.
Confirmed on this thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2525687 |
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SoCalJes Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2011 Posts: 1093 Location: Broward, FL
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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I noticed that there were a few images of the lower part of the chrome pillar but nothing about the top fitment or mention of it. Is there anything about it to look out for during the install? _________________ Jesse
71 Ghia
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Mrfun2fly Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2015 Posts: 548 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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Does the upper aluminum moldings above the doors between the body and the aluminum molding get the rubber trim under them like the rear quarter window aluminum trim?
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fes Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 999 Location: Prince Edward Island
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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Mrfun2fly wrote: |
Does the upper aluminum moldings above the doors between the body and the aluminum molding get the rubber trim under them like the rear quarter window aluminum trim?
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They do not, the headliner is sandwiched between the channel and the body
Check this out, helped me
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=439152 _________________ '68 Campmobile-Pedro
'15 Golf-Stella Blau
'56 Oval-The Turd (for now) |
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Mrfun2fly Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2015 Posts: 548 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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fes wrote: |
Mrfun2fly wrote: |
Does the upper aluminum moldings above the doors between the body and the aluminum molding get the rubber trim under them like the rear quarter window aluminum trim?
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They do not, the headliner is sandwiched between the channel and the body
Check this out, helped me
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=439152 |
Awesome thank you! |
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kiwighia68 Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2867 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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Great advice on this thread by Rich. It took me 2 days to get mine done but it was worth every second - my Ghia is so much quieter with the pop-outs closed. I might even reinstall my radio. _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
1968 Ghia named Emiko
Resto completed Dec 2015 |
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sdebaker Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2006 Posts: 228
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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fes wrote: |
Mrfun2fly wrote: |
Does the upper aluminum moldings above the doors between the body and the aluminum molding get the rubber trim under them like the rear quarter window aluminum trim?
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They do not, the headliner is sandwiched between the channel and the body
Check this out, helped me
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=439152 |
Here's another point of view, from my spring '09 copy of the House of Ghia catalog (which is a valuable reference for me).
"...But for speed on Karmann's version of an assembly line, a quick bead of silicone ' bathtub caulk' was used on the similar aluminum channel holding the main door seal. However, the craftsmen quickly realized the seal intended for the quarter window, also worked just dandy at covering up gaps/flaws in the door seal channel to roof junction. I estimate 30% of all KG's came with a seal in place of silicone caulking..." |
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Mellow Yellow 74 Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2014 Posts: 1615 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:47 am Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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I have a few questions about these aluminium channels. My old ones are in ok condition but have glue on the bottom (which doesn't appear to be original) and putty on the top around each hole.
- what have people used to clean/polish these channels?
- do you need to glue the rubbers onto the bottom when you fit them?
- do you need to seal around the holes when you fit them?
- what fasterners do people use to install these? _________________ 1962 Karmann Ghia
1974 Deluxe Microbus
1985 Caravelle (Vanagon) |
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Paul70Ghia Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2014 Posts: 154 Location: Uk
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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Not sure about cleaning the old substance off but I don’t think they need any sealing if the rubber channel to the body is in good condition as they are quite a snug fit. If you do glue them it will also make any position adjustments very difficult if needed. The aluminium channel is held down with very small cross head screws - I think they are the same as the aluminium side sill garnishes but not sure. I put a dab of cavity wax on each screw/hole before fitting just to stop any rusting where the screw thread contacts the body.
The actual window seal sits very tightly in the aluminium channel and don’t need gluing. |
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fes Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 999 Location: Prince Edward Island
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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The old "adhesive" is more than likely deteriorated old original rubber material..you can clean it off easily enough with lighter fluid or "Goo gone" (which doesn't work as good as it used to,think they changed the formula)
You can bring back the shine in the aluminum with some Mother's aluminum polish and some Never Dull, which is a soft cotton like cleaner in a can..
(Seems like i just plugged a few brands that I'm sure I'll never see a dime for )
An important tip I should give is wash the new rubber thoroughly with soap and water in a bucket before the install..this will get rid of the chalky white coating on all aftermarket rubbers that's a major pain in the ass to get off after,especially quarter window areas..
The fasteners are just regular sheet metal screws,with flat heads..the drive is up to you, slot,Phillips or Robertson..which is my preference because well..I am Canadian of course
Good luck
-Matt _________________ '68 Campmobile-Pedro
'15 Golf-Stella Blau
'56 Oval-The Turd (for now) |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3804 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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So who has a good 1/4 window seal?
When I restored my Ghia back in 94 all the seals I could find were straight resulting in buckling where it bends. Does someone make a better one now? _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
“Let he that is without oil throw the first rod”
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herndog67 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2017 Posts: 37 Location: carson,ca
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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does anyone know what size screw is used for the quarter window chrome molding and where I can get them? I cant seem to find them anywhere? thank you |
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Mrfun2fly Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2015 Posts: 548 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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herndog67 wrote: |
does anyone know what size screw is used for the quarter window chrome molding and where I can get them? I cant seem to find them anywhere? thank you |
I'm sure someone will know the exact size but I we t to the hardware store and bought something close then on a bench finder grinded the sides and top so to fit in the molding and to leave enough for the screwdriver to put them in.
Ive done this o two Ghias now and worked great. And now I can say, "it's custom" |
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sputnick60 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 22, 2007 Posts: 3907 Location: In Molinya Orbit
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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Mrfun2fly wrote: |
herndog67 wrote: |
does anyone know what size screw is used for the quarter window chrome molding and where I can get them? I cant seem to find them anywhere? thank you |
I'm sure someone will know the exact size but I we t to the hardware store and bought something close then on a bench finder grinded the sides and top so to fit in the molding and to leave enough for the screwdriver to put them in.
Ive done this o two Ghias now and worked great. And now I can say, "it's custom" |
If it is the self tapping screw holding the trim below the window then according to the parts book the part is a countersunk head 2.2 x 13 mm. Three each side are required. The same screw size is used to hold the aluminium channel in the frame and seven a side are required there. If its the ones going in the hinge pillar, then those are fillister head self tappers 2.9 x 13 mm and you need four per side.
Either that or I didn't understand the question.
Nicholas _________________ '66 Karmann Ghia Cabriolet...
'65 Porsche 356C Coupe...
2005 Mecedes Benz C180 Kompressor Estate
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herndog67 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2017 Posts: 37 Location: carson,ca
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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thank you sputnick60 and mrfun2fly,very helpful |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3804 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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What seals are these?
I’d like to replace mine as they are all bunched up in the curve. _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
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Mrfun2fly Samba Member
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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I can find them listed in myriad places. When I rebuilt my Ghia I had a couple of different sets from different sellers and chose the ones less evil.
Call me cynical but I doubt the OP got them from CIP1.
I could be wrong but need some photographic evidence to convince me.
They’re out of stock anyway! _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
“Let he that is without oil throw the first rod”
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Mrfun2fly Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2015 Posts: 548 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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jeffrey8164 wrote: |
I can find them listed in myriad places. When I rebuilt my Ghia I had a couple of different sets from different sellers and chose the ones less evil.
Call me cynical but I doubt the OP got them from CIP1.
I could be wrong but need some photographic evidence to convince me.
They’re out of stock anyway! |
Check with KGPR then, they should have them. Now if you need some door seals I have a set. |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Quarter window installation pop outs |
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The ones I have now are from KGPR. _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
“Let he that is without oil throw the first rod”
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