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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom,
I have the clams for the towelrack. Here are some pictures of them.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how nice a European Fog Lamp signal arm would look sticking out the other side of the steering steering column? I have an American turn signal switch that takes up alot of space on the column, I don't thinkn that will look right......
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have the clams for the towelrack. Here are some pictures of them.

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Very nice, were did you get them? I might go with clear Hella driving lamps, if I can find a pair that aren't too big and will fit between my vanity plate on the front and the bumperette?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also go Hella foglight crazy Smile
Regarding switches, I have a red tip for the semaphores on the left, and a blue tip on the right side for the foglights.
Looks like Bobīs set up but mine is homemade.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can also go Hella foglight crazy Smile
Regarding switches, I have a red tip for the semaphores on the left, and a blue tip on the right side for the foglights.
Looks like Bobīs set up but mine is homemade.

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So do I understand that right? You made these bumperettes for your foglamps?

I'm thinking that I'll see what the Hella set up would have looked like if they were made for Export bumpers? I might see if an old set of front Export bumperettes can be cut up and welded to take on a nice set of Hella foglamps? (I'll draw it up on paper first see how it looks?)

If I do install foglamps, then I'll have to go with an underdash location for a foglamp switch, maybe next to my 3-way Semaphore switch, like a Zwitter has.....I have an American turn signal switch installed there's no room on the column to put another switch and well mixing the American and Euro switch I think won't look nice.

Now in my old "one owner" 1956 I used to drive in Germany, I had dual Semaphore signal switches facing left, the one farest front for Semaphores and in the back for Blinkers, I suppose that you could even fit another signal switch arm on the other side facing right to use for fog lamps and even a horn, which would be kool. Smile

I also like that rare dual fog lamp cluster you have at the bottom, (I think that's the BEST set up you have tried)
I just can't use that style, which I have a vanity plate covering up the area below the middle of my towelrack bumper, too bad while I really like those dual lamps in that housing........

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No my bumbergaurds are original Hella!

Itīs the switch combo bracket that is homemade. I can get a picture of it tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go Tom:

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That is a dual control unit, but you can make one up using two turn signal housing. You might have to modify the strap and channel covers, but that should't be too tough.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here you go Tom:

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That is a dual control unit, but you can make one up using two turn signal housing. You might have to modify the strap and channel covers, but that should't be too tough.


Exactly, I used 2 straps, cut them to the desired length and spotwelded them together.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are these the correct bumper gaurds that mount fog lights for VWs? Or are these for a different car?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1374741
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are these the correct bumper gaurds that mount fog lights for VWs? Or are these for a different car?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1374741


Yep! Smile
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Are these the correct bumper gaurds that mount fog lights for VWs? Or are these for a different car?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1374741


They look correct, but a friend of mine once bought a bumberguard that we also thought were for vw. But it turned out that the bolt was located diffrent, and also the curve against the bumber was a little diffrent.

So hard to tell if they arenīt hold up to a bumber.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally talked to the gentleman selling those guards/lamps and they are 100% for Volkswagen, he shared some detailed information and original photos and instructions for the Hella bumperlamps with me, while I'm considering making a set from US-Export Bumperettes.

I just have to figure out how to blend/ design in the upper towelrack, make it all functional on paper first.........

I have always loved these lamps, (I just ended up with a European car that has Export bumpers, so I have to go without or design a solution?)
I think they are the most functional and also most beautiful of all early VW accessories, just too bad they were soo expensive back then and that they didn't catch on, thus now they are in the rarer than rare status. Very Happy

I'm really happy to see the new fresh interest in these, like I said someone should work on a modern reproduction with nice vintage style fog lamps with yellow lenses and repop a few sets of bumperettes, not enough to flood the market with the look, but just enough to pay back the project and improve the looks of 50 to 100 or so VW's in the scene..... Wink I wish I had the cash to do it, I know that these would sell quickly at $200 to $300 a set (But, no more than that!) even in this poor economy. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FRK wrote:
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I have the clams for the towelrack. Here are some pictures of them.

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Very nice, were did you get them? I might go with clear Hella driving lamps, if I can find a pair that aren't too big and will fit between my vanity plate on the front and the bumperette? Tom


Go to your local motorcycle dealer and see if they have (or can order) a set of footpeg clamps that attatch to the highway bar (also know as engine guards or crash bars) you can get that exact style and other variations in different sizes and they are chrome to boot. Just measure the diameter of your towel rail and get that size. I used to work at a motorcycle dealer and I ordered these all the time.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Hella's are like just crazy expensive!

I'm really surprised that with all the reproduction going on from things, why no one has made a copy of these fog lamps with like $100 lamps, sell them for $200 with all mounting hardware and they would FLY out the door.........

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have the clams for the towelrack. Here are some pictures of them.

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Here's another set up using the towelbar clamps above with set of marshal forglights.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally got a picture of my homemade dual control unit.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I finally got a picture of my homemade dual control unit.
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Very nice Peter. Can you back-up the picture angle and show us the gauges under the dash? I see some interesting things around there. Cool
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I finally got a picture of my homemade dual control unit.
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Very nice Peter. Can you back-up the picture angle and show us the gauges under the dash? I see some interesting things around there. Cool


Hi Bob
From left itīs a Motometer outside temp gauge, a Motometer tach and on the right itīs a VDO oil pressure gauge, and behind that you can seea white button, thatīs a VDO speed warner.
A can take a couple of pictures if you like?
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By all means...............Post up some pictures. Cool
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Yes Peter, pictures please! Very Happy
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