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Lasse Mix
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:43 am    Post subject: My Split-Window Convertible Reply with quote

Hi.
Visit boxerville.se a Swedish forum with loads of type1 splits and ovals, type2 barndoors and splits.
This link shows one of My projects.
http://boxerville.se/forum/viewtopic.php?id=39
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somehow I don't think hotrodding a split Karman is going to be the best thing to do with respect to the value of the car... Sweden used to have a real Hebmuller that was dragraced to pieces in the '70s. A bit sad to see those pictures now.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw this heb in Sweden two years ago.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Somehow I don't think hotrodding a split Karman is going to be the best thing to do with respect to the value of the car... Sweden used to have a real Hebmuller that was dragraced to pieces in the '70s. A bit sad to see those pictures now.

LOL. I know what i have in the workshop so please dont be put down that i dont do what others expect. The car will be restore with two different chassis. Sad that you dont like pics of good bodywork. Usually people in our hobby do.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice work...Keep us updated and post some pictures....
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work! thanks for sharing. keep us updated.

My grandparents were from Sweden but unfortunately I don't speak the language but the pictures tell the story pretty well.

It's debatable whether a properly done custom done on a Karman would lower the price. It all depends what you do to it. Done right it can increase the value.

Rich did OK on the heb he customized when he sold it. Shocked Same goes for his '50 ragtop.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting.

I am happy that anyone takes the time to post any sort of photos or progress reports for ongoing projects.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lasse Mix wrote:
Sad that you dont like pics of good bodywork. Usually people in our hobby do.


No comment was made on the quality of the bodywork, only of the aspect of hot rodding an old Karmann.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lasse Mix wrote:
Sad that you dont like pics of good bodywork. Usually people in our hobby do.


No comment was made on the quality of the bodywork, only of the aspect of hot rodding an old Karmann.


Sorry Must have read the post wrong. Thought your comment stated " those pics"

The best thing by owning ā car is that u can do whatever u feel for it.
I've been in the game for so long. That i know the respect of the value.
SO please dont worry. It Will be ā stock chassi redone for the car and ā chassi with the mods. Body as it left Karmann. So fully interchangeble Smile
Soon summer is behind us here in Sweden so its time to gear up in the workshop.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keep up the good work Lasse..... donīt bother those who donīt understand that itīs just a car..... it can always turn into original in the future.....

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roger hakansson wrote:
keep up the good work Lasse..... donīt bother those who donīt understand that itīs just a car..... it can always turn into original in the future.....

//Rogga


I don't agree that a split Karman vert is just another car that should be "improved" the Swedish way. The reason most of us frequent this site is not because we see rare old VWs as just means of transportation. Even if this is not my car, I have the right to express that a 60 year old VW is better off staying original, than hotrodded. It doesn't make me any less knowledgeable than you guys, its just my plain opinion.
Since the body is to be kept original and a different chassis will be used, however, everyone will be happy.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy i will use a classic.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing work Cool

You swedish have some skills. Inspires me to get on with my 50.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading my original post I can see it could be misunderstood. I was referring to pics of the torn up Hebmüller as sad to see, not the pictures of the work of Lasse which is top notch. But frankly I am amazed to see so many guys coming forward to defend the rights of the owner of a rare old car to do whatever he likes, in a forum dedicated to the preservation of the same cars.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool What ever Exclamation

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

allsidius wrote:
roger hakansson wrote:
keep up the good work Lasse..... donīt bother those who donīt understand that itīs just a car..... it can always turn into original in the future.....

//Rogga


I don't agree that a split Karman vert is just another car that should be "improved" the Swedish way. I have the right to express that a 60 year old VW is better off staying original, than hotrodded.


you have the right to express yourself in anyway you want.... but Lasses Split vert will be all original as far as the bodywork. he will just use a diffrent pan and have the original left as it is..so he can turn it into an original car if he wants, and this is not any more wrong than all the #Ī%#Ī%%# hoodrides out there.... Very Happy

And itīs still JUST a car....
I think the people in Etiopia donīt care if it is a original car or hotrod.... they have real problems......
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich's 50 wrote:
Cool What ever Exclamation

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I don't care what anyone says, that's badass Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, that heb is badass....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The metalwork is beautiful! Thanks for posting the link.

I can't read the text, but the pictures show a high level of attention to detail. I have done this to two convertibles a '54 (25 years ago) and now a '52. For those who haven't, understand the amount of work Lassie Mix is doing. Replacement metal for early verts is very hard to come by, and a lot of the pieces must be hand made. Making it look factory is much more time consuming than just repairing it.

I appreciate the link because it helps me. I have one or two errors in my metalwork. When I had a question about how something really was done there was no split vert witin 1000 miles for me to go look at. I've got photos but many times the detail I'm looking for is not there, or hidden, or the car photographed is a year or two off and different. The photos are valuable.

As far as the value goes, no one better understands the value of the vert than the owner. No sale will recover the amount of time and money involved. Verts get restored because the owners enjoy it.

Everyone has the right to their opinion but they should consider that it may not be wise to express it. If Lassie Mix gets frustrated by the opinions and stops posting, it makes it harder on people like me who are doing similar work.
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