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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

14 gauge wire will be fine,worst thing that can happen is the bus burns to the ground,but hey you saved 5 bucks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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14 gauge wire will be fine,worst thing that can happen is the bus burns to the ground,but hey you saved 5 bucks.


Ok ok, point made. Sarcastic smart assery aside, that's what I was asking. Other posts on here said that the wire would limit the current to what it can handle and that smaller wire (12-10ga) was used (I guess relative to typical battery cables) specifically to reduce current and slow down charging. It made it sound like a battery didn't behave like a typical load, and that smaller wire would just charge slower (e.g. like when you use a 0.5A phone charger, the phone just takes the 0.5A and doesn't try to force 1A through the wire... but both ends of that wire have electronics controlling the current so I knew it wasn't a perfect analogy). I wasn't sure if I'd understood correctly, so I asked.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

What is your largest load on the aux battery? #14 gauge may be fine, for DC wiring it will handle over 30 amps.

http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

http://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Marine-Wire-Size-And-Ampacity

I would still consider #14 to be marginal though and likely go with a #10 or even a #8 myself, higher voltage to the loads for cooler running motors and faster charging as well

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/amps-wire-gauge-d_730.html
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

https://www.tessco.com/yts/industry/products/itm/automotive/get_wired.html
this may help
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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What is your largest load on the aux battery? #14 gauge may be fine, for DC wiring it will handle over 30 amps.

http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

http://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Marine-Wire-Size-And-Ampacity

I would still consider #14 to be marginal though and likely go with a #10 or even a #8 myself, higher voltage to the loads for cooler running motors and faster charging as well

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/amps-wire-gauge-d_730.html


The entire load is fused at 16A and the relay itself is only rated to 30A. While I'm driving, I might charge my phone. While I'm parked, the relay will take these wires out of the equation.

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https://www.tessco.com/yts/industry/products/itm/automotive/get_wired.html
this may help


According to that, my 4' 14ga wire is good to at least 50A. The relay itself will fail at 30A, so it should be ok then...

So it sounds like I wasn't wrong after all... the main risk is slow charging. I'll address that down the road if it seems to be a problem. If I start parking anywhere for longer periods, I'll be looking at solar solutions anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

I want to replace my rear bumper, it has some waves after years of abuse.
I see on mine, despite some waves the bumper's "edge" is parallel to the body of the bus. Many other buses I have seen the bumper's top edge seems to have more of a "curve" to it where the bumper is slightly curved away from the body of the bus.
Does anyone know which is right?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

It looks like my fuel pump has sprung a leak. Who sells the original German seals or the best quality seals I can find? I looked on wolfsburgwest but they are out of stock. Any other suggestions? Bus is a 69 with the original pump.

Edit: Or at this point in the game am I better off going with a replacement fuel pump altogether?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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It looks like my fuel pump has sprung a leak. Who sells the original German seals or the best quality seals I can find? I looked on wolfsburgwest but they are out of stock. Any other suggestions? Bus is a 69 with the original pump.

Edit: Or at this point in the game am I better off going with a replacement fuel pump altogether?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=608309&highlight=fuel+pump
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mechanical-Fuel-Pump-Upright-Engine-w-Alternator-p/113-127-025g.htm

I've heard people are having good luck with this pump. It at least comes w/the pivot pin w/clips so it doesn't back out.

Hearing that Wolfsburg West is out of stock is maybe a good thing. I know several people contacted them about how lousy that kit was that they kept selling. Maybe they finally stop selling it.

Wolfsburg West or another aircooled parts vendor could become hero's to the VW community if they'd get a decent Pierburg fuel pump rebuild kit produced. There's clearly a demand for them.

With Vintagewerks charging $235 for a rebuilt one Shocked , a vendor could sell a lot of rebuild kits.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
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It looks like my fuel pump has sprung a leak. Who sells the original German seals or the best quality seals I can find? I looked on wolfsburgwest but they are out of stock. Any other suggestions? Bus is a 69 with the original pump.

Edit: Or at this point in the game am I better off going with a replacement fuel pump altogether?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=608309&highlight=fuel+pump


Right, in researching the topic I came across that thread but it basically says most of the kits are out of stock and hard to find. I guess I glossed over the part about WW being of poor quality. I checked out the recommended vintage works but it looks like they specialize in porsche and aircooled smaller than 1600 sized fuel pumps.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

beatles4 wrote:
busdaddy wrote:
beatles4 wrote:
It looks like my fuel pump has sprung a leak. Who sells the original German seals or the best quality seals I can find? I looked on wolfsburgwest but they are out of stock. Any other suggestions? Bus is a 69 with the original pump.

Edit: Or at this point in the game am I better off going with a replacement fuel pump altogether?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=608309&highlight=fuel+pump


I checked out the recommended vintage works but it looks like they specialize in porsche and aircooled smaller than 1600 sized fuel pumps.


? They sell the rebuilt 1500-1600 square top Pierburg fuel pumps and have an add on this site.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

Can somebody tell me the last year of the chrome base window cranks?

My 1971 bus has repro all black plastic covered window cranks and I would like to replace them with used stock. I like the look of the chrome base with the slender black plastic cover over the "arm" only... but am not sure that they are correct for 1971.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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Can somebody tell me the last year of the chrome base window cranks?

My 1971 bus has repro all black plastic covered window cranks and I would like to replace them with used stock. I like the look of the chrome base with the slender black plastic cover over the "arm" only... but am not sure that they are correct for 1971.


68-69 Chrome standard
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73 last year for chrome handles on deluxes

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

wcfvw69 wrote:
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mechanical-Fuel-Pump-Upright-Engine-w-Alternator-p/113-127-025g.htm

I've heard people are having good luck with this pump. It at least comes w/the pivot pin w/clips so it doesn't back out.

Hearing that Wolfsburg West is out of stock is maybe a good thing. I know several people contacted them about how lousy that kit was that they kept selling. Maybe they finally stop selling it.

Wolfsburg West or another aircooled parts vendor could become hero's to the VW community if they'd get a decent Pierburg fuel pump rebuild kit produced. There's clearly a demand for them.

With Vintagewerks charging $235 for a rebuilt one Shocked , a vendor could sell a lot of rebuild kits.


Yah, vintagewerks ended up being cost prohibitive. I was liking that one you linked except I still have a generator and it looks like the inlet of my fuel pump has what looks like a brake line fitting where it is screwed into the pump. I didn't really want to cut that line to run a rubber hose since it lasted in my bus this long but it seems like a rather challenging task to find the generator style fuel pump for a 1600 with that screw in inlet.

The closest I have come across is this so far.
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mechanical-Fuel-Pump-1961-65-Type-1-1960-65-T2-p/211-127-025.htm

edit: But from what I am reading on this forum it looks like the 40hp pump should work fine on a 1600 singleport.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

According to my Bentley book it looks like this is the correct stock pump for my bus.

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From what I gathered everywhere online and here it looks like on early bay buses VW put 40 hp fuel pumps from factory so I would need a 40 hp fuel pump rebuild kit to fix my leaking pump right? I just wanted to corroborate with you guys to make sure I am on the right track.

Edit: My questions was I wanted to corroborate that my hunch was correct and that I indeed did have a 40hp fuel pump.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

The pump above was used on 1500cc buses too so I'm sure it would be fine on a 1600.

I cannot answer if it is correct for a Bay Window.
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Couldn't find a definitive answer by searching... '78 Westy: are the passenger and driver seats swappable with each other? My driver seat has lost its sproing. I'll get it fixed one day, but can I just swap it with the hardly-used passenger seat in the meantime?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

I need a rebuild kit for one of those pumps too. I have that same pump on my 1970 Westfalia 1600 SP.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

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According to my Bentley book it looks like this is the correct stock pump for my bus.

Scott seemed to remember it being used until midyear 1970.

http://sur.fuscanet.com/kit-reparacion-bomba-combustible-1200-aleman-original-p-3131.html

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111198553

http://kieftenklok.nl/shop/index.php/de/front-page...e-1-detail

VWC-111-198-553 - FUEL PUMP REBUILD KIT-ALL 40HP BEETLE / GHIA / BUS - WITH SCREW INLET
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-111-198-553

https://www.bugcity.com/shop/shop.htm?pquery=rebuild+kit

VINTAGE FUEL PUMPS FOR SALE
http://www.vintagewerks.com/Fuel%20Pumps/fp_4sale.html#40hopierburgfuelpump

TECH TIPS 40 h.p. - 1600 c.c. Fuel Pump Rebuild
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/wired/wired_12_99/wired_12_99.htm

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: The Stupid Question Thread Reply with quote

khalimadeath wrote:
I need a rebuild kit for one of those pumps too. I have that same pump on my 1970 Westfalia 1600 SP.


Thank you TCash, those were all the links I found last night. I also contacted Wolfsburg West inquiring about their rebuild kit. A lot of people on this forum seemed to think that what they sold was chinese junk (which it probably was for the generic 2 barb style fuel pump) but according to WW the 40hp style pump uses a rebuild kit from Brazil for whatever that is worth to you.

I am placing my order now and am hoping to have a leak free fuel pump this weekend.

@ khalimadeath

I will keep you posted as to how the rebuild goes and my opinion of the WW rebuild kit.
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