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notsnarb Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the verification, I was sure my '61 was cloth. The color chart indicates to me a mid grey.
Now I'm looking for a photo and maybe a call to Chucks.
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notsnarb Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2006 Posts: 845 Location: MI
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:50 pm Post subject: '61 Gas tank |
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So the '61 gas tank was one year only, and thanks to a Samba advertiser I now have one for my resto.
Couple of questions,
1. The tank I bought has a mysterious hole in the filler neck opposite the vent connection. I'm puzzled can anyone shed some light on it? its is a 1/4" dia hole.
If some PO just drilled it I'll weld it up. Just curious.
2. Tank color, the tank is OG gray and I'm looking for a close color match, can anyone help me?
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AlteWagen Troll
Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 8503 Location: PNW
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notsnarb Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2006 Posts: 845 Location: MI
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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AlteWagen wrote: |
accessory sending unit location.
As for the gray, how is the condition of the seam where it sat on the body. If good color take tank to have it color matched. |
So it was for an aftermarket gas gauge? Of course the '61 tank never had a gas gauge. I just never saw one - anyone got info?
I figure on welding it shut anyway.
Color, there are plenty of places for me to color match it - I was looking for a VW code/color. |
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AlteWagen Troll
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notsnarb Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2006 Posts: 845 Location: MI
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Interesting stuff.
Does anyone have a photo or info on the installation at the tank end?
Strange set-up in my car, '61 Canadian model Vert. If I'm correct it should not have had a gas gauge and have the '61 only tank (sender depression but no hole).
Surprisingly the dash metal (but not the grille) has a cut out for a gas gauge. the PO has installed a later tank and gauge and I'd re-installing the reserve lever arrangement. |
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007 Posts: 11056 Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Id weld up the hole and embrace the uniqueness of your 61...
The hole is usually for an accessory VDO sending unit. It was very similar to the ones used for the 53-60 hump tanks.
It was installed into the neck and secured with a special bolt to allow the circuit pass through the center.
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_________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
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bugmandave Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005 Posts: 642 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:12 am Post subject: |
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branston wrote: |
Interesting stuff.
Does anyone have a photo or info on the installation at the tank end?
Strange set-up in my car, '61 Canadian model Vert. If I'm correct it should not have had a gas gauge and have the '61 only tank (sender depression but no hole).
Surprisingly the dash metal (but not the grille) has a cut out for a gas gauge. the PO has installed a later tank and gauge and I'd re-installing the reserve lever arrangement. |
the dash from 58 up had the cut out behind the right dash grille for a gas gauge but factory didn't install one until 62 |
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bugmandave Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005 Posts: 642 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Thought I'd post up some pics of my 63 project to keep this thread going. here are some current pics...here's a link to my build thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=548899
fresh original engine
bringing it to the body/paint man
right now
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notsnarb Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:22 am Post subject: |
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VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
Id weld up the hole and embrace the uniqueness of your 61...
The hole is usually for an accessory VDO sending unit. It was very similar to the ones used for the 53-60 hump tanks.
It was installed into the neck and secured with a special bolt to allow the circuit pass through the center.
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notsnarb Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2006 Posts: 845 Location: MI
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:23 am Post subject: |
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VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
Id weld up the hole and embrace the uniqueness of your 61...
The hole is usually for an accessory VDO sending unit. It was very similar to the ones used for the 53-60 hump tanks.
It was installed into the neck and secured with a special bolt to allow the circuit pass through the center.
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Oh I plan to weld up the hole, I was just curious to see the sender unit. Thanks for posting it |
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lovethatconvertible Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2008 Posts: 1434 Location: Las Vegas N. V.
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: How do i remove this ribit screw help |
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You can drill it out, I know because I've done it. Be very carefull when you center punch the pivot, as it will determine how well the hole is maintained, when you drill. Step drilling would be the ticket.
I've searched and called the convertible vendors, but they only sell the pivots to customers that are having their top frame rebuilt by them. So screw that, I bought some round stock and went to an old machine shop i used to work at and turned my own. I looked and looked in the classifieds and have only seen 2 new old stock pivots for sale. Needless to say I bought them. There are at least 3 different lengths of pivots on my 1960 frame. |
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donemoto Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 501
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Hello, MY car for your consideration is a 1962 Convertible. Serial # 4545555. Engine# 6554041. It is a one owner, original rust bucket. It has the original motor.
I got a call in 1981 from my wife's friend. She said she was moving to Avery Island, La. She had her bone stock Bug Convertible stored in a friends shed in New Orleans; where we lived at the time. The shed's roof was shot, so the Bug had been in it for about 3 years. She gave it to me for free. She had been driving it when the battery fell thru the floor pan and broke on the street. The Bug was towed to a Bug shop where storage fees occurred. They paid the fees and towed it to the shed where I picked it up. It sat in the shed with an English Rover. My buddy and I spent about 2 hours sawing the rotten door frame off the shed; that had collapsed and blocked the two cars.
I looked at the car and decided to take it home and maybe make a Baja out of it. After giving it a good washing, I couldn't cut it up.
1st thing I did was put a set of fiberglass floor pans in it, I think I got them from "Johnny's Speed and Chrome".
I accessed the missing pieces. The 2 big ones were: it was missing the small glass window and the rear view mirror. I spent the next 3 years looking locally for the pieces. I was working on my buddy's bus; when, he told me he saw a Bug like mine in a junk yard in rural Mississippi. I told him to buy them next time he was there. He came back the next weekend with a rear window and rear view mirror for $50. I gave him $25 extra for his trouble.
Now I had all the pieces I needed except for the top. I ordered a complete top kit from "Chucks", including the Wood.
We moved from New Orleans to Western Pa. in 1995. I drug my Bug, sans top and my 63 Double cab with us. It has set in my shed since then.
Hopefully, in a couple of months when the snow breaks; I will pull it out side and begin the process of getting it running. Will take pics of it as is if anyone is interested. _________________ 1975 Campmobile
1962 Bug Convertible
Homebuilt VW Trike
1966 HD Sprint H
1940 HD ULH Flathead
1985 Electra-glide Classic with Tour-Pac
1968 Harley Rapido
1968 Honda CL Scrambler 175cc
1962 Honda Cub 50 Step-thru
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donemoto Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Enclosed are a few quick pics of the project(setting around in my shed longer than some of you younger VW owners.)
Side view
Sorry about the crappy pic. Shows some of original interior. Notice the shot rear view mirror; which I have a much better replacement.
Rear end with pic of original deck lid.
Interior showing pretty fair condition correct steering wheel.
A pic of an OEM Fender guard . I wanted to put a little bling on the project.
Original engine rebuilt by me in the 80's. 6v blue coil and rebored cylinders 2 over and new exhaust valves on the heads.
As I said in earlier post It's cold and snowy; as shown by the old beast out in the weather.
_________________ 1975 Campmobile
1962 Bug Convertible
Homebuilt VW Trike
1966 HD Sprint H
1940 HD ULH Flathead
1985 Electra-glide Classic with Tour-Pac
1968 Harley Rapido
1968 Honda CL Scrambler 175cc
1962 Honda Cub 50 Step-thru
1980 Honda Cub 70 |
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007 Posts: 11056 Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:54 am Post subject: |
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^^ Great story... and pictures tell the tale.. _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
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notsnarb Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:06 pm Post subject: 61 Vert, Canadian delivery |
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Birth certificate in hand I find that my Vert was Canadian delivered.
Birth certificate shows delivery to Canada in April '61 and the following:
M 158 With outside mirror
M 356 Equipment for Canada
(cannot be identified)
M 556 Upholstery leatherette Silver Beige
M 572 Top cover Grey
Missing from this is (Equipment for USA - of course) and now I'm puzzling if my bug should have US spec bumpers or blade style?
Any Canadian bug experts out there? My fenders don't have over rider holes, but after 50 years they could have been changed. |
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AlteWagen Troll
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Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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How original is the car? What was the original paint code?
I think M356 consisted of gas heater, bigger battery and a few other things. Im trying to figure out if the painted transmission was a "cold climate" option as some living in Canada said all the transmissions they have seen were painted. A block heater might also be part of the 356 code as well.
There is another canadian delivered vert in the thread
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=444733
Not sure if its the same for late cars but you can tell if the car originally came with "ram protection" type bumpers by looking at the lower spare tire tray. If it had the "plate" then it had towel bars
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bugmandave Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:46 am Post subject: new paint!! |
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some progress on my 63 vert, its wearing some shiny new ruby red paint!
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bugmandave Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:30 am Post subject: |
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:50 am Post subject: |
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AWESOME.!! ^^^
Im going back Red on my 61...someday.. (Maybe Black top and Light Gray interior). _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
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