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consvws
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 Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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| I think the (914/411?) engine will be just fine. Moisture will kill an engine block for sure, but i think the pack rats made the nest here because it's nice & dry. |
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secretsubmariner
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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| 69doublecab wrote: |
Not that it's a type 4 engine compartment. It's a LATE BAY engine compartment. All late bays in the US came in with type 4's. Most of the Rest of the World (ROW), they had type 1 1600's, a few in Italy and other places even had 44hp DIN motors that I think were dual port 1300's.
Dual port or single does not really make much difference. A single port 1600 might actually be better in a bus.
There are some REAL reasons to do a type 1 engined late bay, but not financial. The main reason is if you wanted to drive it worldwide. Type 1 engine parts are everywhere. Type 4 only US, Germany, Britain, and Aus.
A type 1 engine can be put into this correctly with the proper tin, wires and air cleaner and preheat hoses. Can't remember about the final drive or 4th gear.
This is a pile of junk tho. Nobody would ever run a full centrifugal dizzy in a late bus. Ray Charles could see it doesn't work.
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SamboSamba22
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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why would there be corrosion on the case? They are aluminum.
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Rat piss is fairly corrosive. Not sure if it harms aluminum.
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consvws
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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| cdennisg wrote: |
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why would there be corrosion on the case? They are aluminum.
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Rat piss is fairly corrosive. Not sure if it harms aluminum. |
rat piss can rust metal out real quick, but as far as engine blocks go i've never seen it eat through very deep, just kinda makes a chalky surface that sands right off. |
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notchboy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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Sambo - what an amazing find! Pure awesomeness! Now scoop them up - spend some time and money gaining out accolades on the interweb - only to find out now you have a rusty non working turd(turds) taking up space in your drive. Scowls from the pissed wife. No nooky. Then spend some more time selling the crap after you dissect it, trying to net your $ back.
 
Nice find - tell some other dreamer where its at - then youll be amazed how much less our head and wallet will hurt 
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SamboSamba22
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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Jason, you have solid points!
I'm thinking of buying them up, cleaning them and selling them to someone to keep the buses alive! There's no need for them to keep sitting in the middle of nowhere dying. I may just grab one of the them. Haven't decided yet. Looking for storage options.
I know some motors and transaxles, but I'd rather sell them as nice camper rollers to someone who more space or wanting the project.
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notchboy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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Fight the good fight then sir. If you are up to all that they sure deserve it.
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SamboSamba22
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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Abscate,
Who's making mistakes? I know it isn't Consvws, thats a freaking sweet find. I completely agree it was destined to be rescued, all the wild flowers in bloom. Awesome photos. X2 on seeing some interior shots.
What are people's take on buying a couple rollers (the two I know of), they're not in terrible shape. Believe it or not, the 75 is in the same shape I found my 74. I know I wouldn't make much selling them, but being able to get a few parts off of them I need, cleaning them up, and keeping them alive by selling them to someone who has the passion and knowledge for a good deal, I think it's good karma! SAVE THE BAYS! Or have lots of yard art
Sam
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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If you have the means and wherewithal to buy, haul, store, clean, part out, and sell your finds, then by all means do so. Better than letting them rot away or get recycled into Kia fenders and rebar.
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crukab
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:36 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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| cdennisg wrote: |
| If you have the means and wherewithal to buy, haul, store, clean, part out, and sell your finds, then by all means do so. Better than letting them rot away or get recycled into Kia fenders and rebar. |
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Bays do not bring big $$ in that shape, lots of dreamers around that say they want a Bus, but to get one w/ no engine or trans will slow your sales. The hope is to find someone that has a rotted but running camper, that can do the swap. #1 rule is to keep the wife happy, I have stored Buses here to keep a friend from pissing off his wife. If you can store them until you get them cleaned up & sell, go for it.
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aerosurfer
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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Anyone k ow anything about this... totally new to me. At first I thought high top Vanagon, but claimed as a 76, and the tail lights look like Bay window
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/5624385454.html
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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That is a grey market car/ truck. Not imported into the US originally.
LT24, I think 24 is for the 2400cc engine displacement. Pretty good truck, but might have to get parts from Germany Or UK.
Al
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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| 69doublecab wrote: |
That is a grey market car/ truck. Not imported into the US originally.
LT24, I think 24 is for the 2400cc engine displacement. Pretty good truck, but might have to get parts from Germany Or UK.
Al |
yep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_LT
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consvws
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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a friend of mine just gave me a badly rolled '73 bus and a rusted out '61 beetle for removing them from his friends property. The beetle we cut up right there & threw in the bed of the truck, and the bus we popped the drums loose & towed home on a dolly.
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khalimadeath
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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Looks pretty rough. It looks like the whole body is shifted.
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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| Looks pretty rough. It looks like the whole body is shifted. |
Not that bad. Is there much rust? Give it to a community college with collision program. If you are in a higher tax bracket You can value it high and take the write off as charitable deduction.Or, just have them fix it.
A good man with a collision machine could probably have it good in 2 days.
Al
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consvws
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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Well, i cleaned it up & there is some serious rust in certain spots. It probably could be fixed, but i'm pretty sure this is a parts bus. The roof is buckled up pretty bad too. It does have some good body clips & a door though. The front beam & frame are nice & solid
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wcfvw69 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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Bummer, it looked like a nice bus before it rolled. IMOP, it's way past totalled. The only way anyone would fix that bus is if it was a barn door!
I'd strip anything of value and sell the shell to the metal recycler.
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consvws
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History |
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| wcfvw69 wrote: |
| I'd strip anything of value and sell the shell to the metal recycler. |
That's why i picked it up, so i can strip it & clip it  Happy 4th! |
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