VW Birth Certificates

[thom]

I ordered 3 - one for my single cab, one for my deluxe, and one for my friend's standard. I ordered them on January 13th (a Saturday, so effectively the 15th) and got them February 10th.

Bad news: My '1957' Deluxe is actually considered a 1958 by the birth certificate people.
Good news: The engine is indeed the original
But it gets a two-page birth certificate, so I got that going for me, which is nice.

My single cab is registered as a 1956, but is considered a 1957.

And the standard

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1956 Single Cab
1957 Porsche 356A Sunroof
1957 23-Window Deluxe
1957 Mercedes Westfalia single cab
1963 Unimog 404
1965 E-Type

[VOLKSWAGNUT]

Ordered my 1961 Beetle Convertible BC on 1/6/2024, received 1/27/2024.

Learned something new.. Option code M912 ...never knew that chromium fender beadings were an option for convertibles... ...
Would be interesting to see with its Ruby Red paint color IMO

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[66foot]

René -

That makes a lot more sense - shipped to San Francisco on 03.14.72.

Thanks...Pat
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[René R.]

[MuzzcoVW]

66foot, very nice! I wish someone could Help Me Understand how VW can't identify SO many of the M codes. I have three on one of my '75s that can't be identified

[66foot]

We have owned our 1972 Super Beetle for 22 years.

We are the second family to own the car.

Although I have many original documents such as the purchase invoice, the Monroney window sticker, the owners manual, the sales brochure, and many repair invoices, none of them listed the engine number.

Therefore, I decided it was time to order the Birth Certificate.
Ordered on 01.01.24.
Received on 01.24.24.

My Super Beetle was born on 03.09.72.
Delivered to San Francisco on 03.14.72.
Note: That seems like a quick delivery from Germany to San Francisco.

I am happy to see that the AE engine number that I submitted to Classic Parts did match the VIN and engine number on file in the VW Archive records.

The special configuration M-codes listed several that could be identified.
Like M-290 - Looks like I will have to find some rear mud flaps.

However, a few M-codes were considered indefinite:

F01
M247
M534
M698
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[FritzCP]

I ordered mine on Nov 28th and got it on Dec 10th.
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[MuzzcoVW]

An update for those looking for the latest delivery times. I ordered one for my '75 convertible on November 18th and I just received it today, quicker than expected! One little surprise is that it has the original engine and was delivered in San Antonio Texas, which would explain the solid body. One detail that's a little confusing is that it lists the tire size as 5.60-15 whitewalls. Weren't all later cars 6.00-15 or was it either/or? If anyone knows please let me know

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[MuzzcoVW]

[FritzCP]

Trying to order another BC but the USA is not listed in the dropdown to check out or advance the cart. anyone else having this issue? Only European countries are listed.
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[58euro]

Ordered one October 8th and it arrived on October 28th, fastest I’ve ever received one after ordering.

[Danny79]

Ok, submitting one for a October 1956 sunroof bug. Let's see, I am curious as to what color it was.

[Bugone]

[58euro]

May must have been one of those odd months for VW, I’ve got a 56 bus that according to the Vin and the charts here on thesamba should be mid May but the Birth certificate lists it as first week of June.

[Bugone]

Thanks KTPhil. Your explanation makes sense and is probably the the best we're going to get. If we did a survey we might find that most Birth Certificate "Date of Manufacture" would not match the door decal.
As you say, it's the VIN and the month built that matter.

Thanks to you both for your insight and help with this.
Brian

[KTPhil]

[Bugone]

Harry, I think you are correct in saying they are using the European date format. I note that at the top of this page there is a picture of a certificate for a 1965 VW Kombi which is spelled out as Manufactured Date 9th September 1965, Delivery Date 10 September 1965.
Assuming VW used the European Date format for my '74 Sun Bug that would make sense: Manufactured on June 4th and Delivered on June 12th.

Still I wonder why the door decal says 05/74?

Brian

[Bugone]

Good question Harry. The date format on the Birth Certificate is 04.06.1974.
So if that is the European date format it would mean date of manufacture in June.
I thought maybe the date of manufacture on the door decal, 05/74, could be when it entered the U.S., but surely those are applied at the factory.
Additionally, the "Delivery Date" on the Birth Certificate is 12.06.1974.
I assume that means when it was delivered to the U.S. Dealer, but seems like a long time before it arrived in the U.S.

And unless the VIN lists are incorrect on The Samba Technical Page, that shows the VIN to have been manufactured in May of 1974. Of course it's not a huge issue, just interesting it would not match the door decal or the VIN listing.
The reason I was looking into it was that the paint code changed somewhere along about May. Prior to the change the Sun Bug paint code was L98C, then it was changed to L99B. Both can be referred to as Harvest Gold Metallic; L98C can be referred to as Hellas Metallic; sometimes it was referred to as Sun Gold. Just the information on the paint code can get very convoluted for the Sun Bugs!
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Thanks for your reply.
Brian

[harrymarlin]