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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:47 am    Post subject: How many zwitter Convertible were produced? Reply with quote

Is there somewhere a source where I can find how many zwitter Conv where builded ??
Somebody told me 837 cars ???

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

145 views, and nobody knows??
I was calling the Karmann factory but they could not help me Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you can count the cars made as a split....month by month.
recalculate pro month how many splits are made and you have an estimate how many cars they made with the oval dash before they changed to complete ovals..It is that simple Rolling Eyes

Oh what the heck....you have one Laughing and I not... Crying or Very sad
congrats Guido. Nice find with those side plates.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least 2. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finaly the car is at my place after a long day ,I was leaving this morning at 7.30, and arived back home at 23.15 hr !
We Had a nice chat with our friends in Germany, and we went also to the Ercker shop , to check out the work Rainer and Marcus did to the Heb !! Shocked Shocked Shocked
I must say nobody could do better ! Its just perfect !
But If you could see what other cars there where standing in that shop
58 conv, , D&S , 2 Hebmullers next week 3 ! Laughing A very nice ISO and they just dilivered a Laughing a splitwindow Rolls R.
Pascal If your Heb is ready for a new top, thats the place you have to go for that Job, If these 3 cars are ready they have made 14 or 15 Hebmuller tops !

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ignorance, what distinguishes a zwitter vert from an oval vert?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Made between Oct. 1st, 1952 and March, what, the 10th (?) 1953.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M113 wrote:
My ignorance, what distinguishes a zwitter vert from an oval vert?


Read this thread
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=198264&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

The last part of the first page and the 2nd page.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok so it's a zvertter Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:05 am    Post subject: Number of Zwitter convertibles Reply with quote

The best way known to me to figure out the actual number of Zwitter cars built is to compare body numbers from the earliest known car still in existence and the last known. They body number starts around 15-11000. By the end of 1952 body number 11800 was produced. This may explain why the figure 831 circulates as a suggested number. It seems believable to me that that refers to the number of zwitter built in 1952.

Last known Zwitter with a known body number is 15-12829. If you do the math you will end up with some 1829+ built. If actually 831 were built in 52, 1900 cars could be a good guess. It is also clear that Zwitter verts were build for some time beyond the last date for Zwitter sedans. My guess is that the last Zwitter vert may have been produced in the end of March based on known chassi numbers.

1900 Zwitter cars in 5 production months correspond fairly well to the total figures for Karmann vert production during 1952 and 1953

Last known Zwitter has Chassi 1-462508 and body 15-12829. Last Zwitter sedan produced mars 9 1953 had Chassi 1-0428156

The best source would be factory documents but I have not heard of any. If anyone knows better feel free to jump in and elaborate on these figures
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:56 am    Post subject: How many Zwitter Convertibles Were Produced Reply with quote

Just a guess here.

I'm looking at sedan and convertible production figures from 1950 through 1954 and the trend seemed to be a 3.3 % average of total production were convertibles.

Edit: So logically, 3.3% of the number of Zwitters produced should be the approximate number of convertibles made.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: How many Zwitter Convertibles Were Produced Reply with quote

Harris wrote:
Just a guess here.

I'm looking at sedan and convertible production figures from 1950 through 1954 and the trend seemed to be a 3.3 % average of total production were convertibles.

Edit: So logically, 3.3% of the number of Zwitters produced should be the approximate number of convertibles made.


With 57928 Zwitter sedans and your estimate of 3.3 % verts the outcome is 1911 verts which is almost to the number the amount that I got from looking at real cars from the beginning and the end ocf Zwitter vert production.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:33 pm    Post subject: How many Zwitter Convertibles Were Produced Reply with quote

Zwittercab53,

Yeah, I didn't read your post correctly to begin with. Good info.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you have ones with split vert boxed seaphores and ones with oval vert semaphores....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: How many zwitter Convertible were produced? Reply with quote

Would anyone also know how many RHD Zwitter Convertibles were produced?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: How many zwitter Convertible were produced? Reply with quote

RVT5373 wrote:
Would anyone also know how many RHD Zwitter Convertibles were produced?

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I totally just pulled that number out of my ass
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Well... very rare cars...
The VW Museam doesn't now?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either they don't know or I'm not asking the right people/dept in the museum
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame... Confused
You told that you ask at the Karmann museam also?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HUGO bOSS wrote:
Shame... Confused
You told that you ask at the Karmann museam also?

That is the same as VW.... it is one company now.
And the karmann museum does not exist. Nor do they have records. Wolfsburg is the only source for that...I wish you good luck.

Oh and the oldest known karmann zwitter show bodynr 11012, the youngest is 12829. I think that around 2000 are made.
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