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1vw4x4 Banned
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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The late model Vw fox 1990-1992 had a very small intake manifold.
It was also running the digifant II fuel system. I never had a chance
to try this intake, but if there was any intake that for fit in to the vanagon
I felt this would be the one.
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Can't you use the intake manifold from a Mk1 Cabriolet to avoid clearancing the frame rail? From memory, it flips the throttle body placement 180 degrees |
Indeed you can. I was toying around with cutting the throttle body flange off the end and swapping it to the other side on an old Scirocco intake I had kicking around. I can't weld aluminum at home but I was going to take it to work and give it a shot. The CIS intake is quite a bit shorter than the Digifant 2 manifold that comes stock on the 91 Jetta. Maybe a CIS intake from a GTI would work? The Digifant manifold has longer runners and a more pronounced curve to them. The mating flange is also on a different angle. If I had a spare I would change the angle of the mating surface a few degrees to tilt the manifold away from the body. |
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greggearhead Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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The VW Fox Intake manifolds were all very similiar. The CIS and EFI ones were as good flowing as the G60 Corrado, which was the best design from the passenger side intake version, vs. A2 2version.
Doesn't make a big difference but both versions allow for the bigger thrott body. _________________ 1972 Porsche 911E
1973 VW 412
1984 VW Doka
1991 Vanagon Syncro Westy
Period Lights, VW & Porsche wheels and Recaro/Scheel Seats for sale
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nemobuscaptain Samba Member
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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On stock diesel vans there is a sheet metal cover that is screwed to the block before the flywheel goes on. This piece covers that opening. Other VWs used a different one, this is the correct T3 one.
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nemobuscaptain Samba Member
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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It is 4 cyl diesel/inline gas only. The wbx engine doesn't need one.
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nemobuscaptain Samba Member
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danfromsyr Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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it's purpose is to keep any rear main seal leak from getting on the clutch.
and (IIRC) the diesel at 50* is orientated differently than the golf/jetta at 15*
but they may be the same one and only part.. I'd have to dig in my shed to see if I still have a diesel van original to compare to a golf/jetta/rabbit plate. _________________
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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As I mentioned, the T3 shield is different than the others.
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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Any love for the 2.0 AGG? _________________ Peace, Regis |
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Michael4104 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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regis101 wrote: |
Any love for the 2.0 AGG? |
Me, come back by the garage and see the one that Detlev is doing now. Sorry I missed you today. Look up there you where, looked again and poof you where gone. _________________ 1990 Wolfsburg Carat with new poptop.
1985 Westy now sporting a 1995 Jetta ABA 2.0L. Sold |
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regis101 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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Torque curve is interesting as it pertains to my stye of driving. Aftermarket cams and chips are available. It seems to have a decent cast iron exhaust header. _________________ Peace, Regis |
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mellowslow Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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This ADY might not fit under the decklid with the existing intake but damn complete new engine for the price!:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-VW-Genuine-Golf-Pa...SwZJlXMkln
Will fit AGG they say. _________________ '87 WBWE FAS Gen V |
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regis101 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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come back by the garage. looked again and poof you where gone. |
No can do. Yinz might put me to work with all these mad skills in the quiver.
Being Ninja is one of them. poof _________________ Peace, Regis |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10367 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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I like that exhaust header type manifold. Engine has older style timing belt
and coolant pump set up. Simpler is better in my books.
I'd suggest that the throttle body would stick up higher than top of ABA/AEG
intake. BUT..... could one install an older Mk2 intake on that puppy?
Much better price than the CBP Jetta long block (2008-2010) Quality German
sells and I'd think the CBP would not be an easy fit.
QG also sells rebuilt ABA engines at $999. Core charge is $200. I have no idea
what the quality is though. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
1988 West DIY 50º ABA
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regis101 Samba Member
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icolquhoun Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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My vote is ABA
cheap as anything
parts can be had anywhere super inexpensively but you'll probably not need to replace anything for a VERY long time.
Here's the swap I just completed into my personal van, started as an '82 aircooled. Fits below unmodded decklid and has 10.5" of ground clearance from ground to bottom of oilpan
2.0 ABA swap complete...82 aircooled vanagon westy
99k on 2002 cabrio engine fully redone with all new gaskets/seals/belts and sensors
97 jetta obd2 wiring harness and ecu heavily modded/shortened/lengthened wth functioning obd port and cel in dash
Hydraulic mounts on bars I fabbed
Fabbed longrunner intake manifold
Fabbed starter adapter with tdi starter on vanagon diesel bellhousing
Fully rebuilt 091
Full 2.25" stainless exhaust with magnaflow cat and xl3 muffler using BEV manifold
Maf integrated into 82 airbox (plastic welded) |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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Daymn...that's a clean install! Nice use of the stock airbox _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10367 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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Thank you very much for posting that pic and info.
I've long been thinking of delving into aluminum welding and making an intake similar to that or adapting an existing intake for same.
Nice fuel hose routing!
And you made good use of Jetta parts like the metal "T" pipe by coolant bottle
I too found that part useful.
If you had pics of the exhaust to share I'm sure that would be appreciated.
I know I"d like to see them.
Neil.
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My vote is ABA
cheap as anything
parts can be had anywhere super inexpensively but you'll probably not need to replace anything for a VERY long time.
Here's the swap I just completed into my personal van, started as an '82 aircooled. Fits below unmodded decklid and has 10.5" of ground clearance from ground to bottom of oilpan
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_________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
1988 West DIY 50º ABA
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regis101 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Inline-4 conversion: What engine? |
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Here in Cali-Land that modified intake wouldn't pass the Visual. Otherwise we'd be all over all kinds of groovy _________________ Peace, Regis |
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