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Zwitter Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2003 Posts: 212 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: Correct jack for a double glove box split |
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As many cars as are out there, it seems that most are missing this item. As all came with a jack, their "mis-placment" over time seems difficult to understand.
I am seeking information on what a correct jack for a July'52 would look like, what is it's length as compared to a later type 2 jack, and most importantly, does anyone have a lead on where I might obtain one?
Thanks, Steve |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69733 Location: Phoenix Metro
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HeSa Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2007 Posts: 466 Location: FINLAND
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Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:12 am Post subject: |
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A "Klettermaxe" jack replaced the Vigot in 19 March 1952. Kletter translates to climber. I believe this is the model that was used most of the fifties and sixties. |
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Fred Udog Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2004 Posts: 372
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: |
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so before 1950 :
to 19 March 1952 Vigot jack :
And after 03/52 , this model ?
Fred |
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axel struwe Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2005 Posts: 287 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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vwisgood4you wrote: |
so before 1950 :
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i think the jack will be changed in the middle of 1948 to a square one.
The one you show is for the round jack compartment (like KDF and up to 1948).
Otherwise, the VIGOT is for barndoor, as i know....
The jack for the beetle is stamped Bilstein and not VIGOT. |
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axel struwe Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2005 Posts: 287 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:17 am Post subject: |
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axel struwe wrote: |
vwisgood4you wrote: |
so before 1950 :
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i think the jack will be changed in the middle of 1948 to a square one.
The one you show is for the round jack compartment (like KDF and up to 1948).
Otherwise, the VIGOT is for barndoor, as i know....
The jack for the beetle is stamped Bilstein and not VIGOT. |
The early KDF beetle have also a different jack. I donīt know the english word, in german it calls "Scherenwagenheber". I donīt know when the changed happend on KDF beetle...? |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9359 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:29 am Post subject: |
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vwisgood4you wrote: |
to 19 March 1952 Vigot jack :
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I was told that one, with the pivoting arm, is for buses. The correct one for the split Beetle is like that but does not have the pivoting arm, rather a fixed one. Like Ev posted above:
_________________ John Henry
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Spanish Flea Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2006 Posts: 1244 Location: So. Flo.
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: |
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This is correct John.
I've spent the last two years looking for a "correct" jack. finally scored one. i'll take some pix and post, better pix, over the weekend.
Plus from what i understand there are two types of this "rigid arm" Vigot jack. a early and late.
Sr. Flea _________________ Miami Vdubs
Alte Schule
Rare Vintage Air
"Mr. Ford, i don't think what we are being offered here is worth a damn!" - Ernest Breech (On buying VW, March 1948) |
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splitpartsunlimited Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2006 Posts: 1251 Location: Good Ol`Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: |
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a friend has a vigot , fixed arm jack for sale , interested parties send me a pm , please _________________ in my Garage:
1951 crotch cooler split
1971 1302 cabriolet
1981 Mercedes Benz 230 military "Gelandewagen"
2010 Mercedes Benz c200 kompressor touring |
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Fred Udog Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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so the VIGOT pivoting arm is only for barndoor ( to march 52) ??
Fred |
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Spanish Flea Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2006 Posts: 1244 Location: So. Flo.
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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vwisgood4you wrote: |
so the VIGOT pivoting arm is only for barndoor ( to march 52) ??
Fred |
Correct.
Bug- fixed arm at 90 degree
Bus- pivoted arm
Porsche- Fixed arm at a downward angle.
Spanish Flea _________________ Miami Vdubs
Alte Schule
Rare Vintage Air
"Mr. Ford, i don't think what we are being offered here is worth a damn!" - Ernest Breech (On buying VW, March 1948) |
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Suboval Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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There are two versions of the Split (50-52) jack.
Early version - VIGOT/BILSTEIN, 3 prong:
Later version - VIGOT/BILSTEIN, fat base:
The bottom is the same as what is on early bus jacks - left and middle picture:
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3776 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Can somone comment on what this jack is for? Could it be correct for an early (post 1948) split?
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empiracer Samba Member
Joined: December 17, 2002 Posts: 1098 Location: Issaquah / Seattle, Wa.
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Where is proper storage for the jack on a split Beetle ? |
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janerick3 Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 1879 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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empiracer wrote: |
Where is proper storage for the jack on a split Beetle ? |
Jacks through 1955 model year were stored in a bag, often made from upholstery fabric. They were stored in the trunk, alongside the tool kit. _________________ Thanks,
Jan K. |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3776 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Can anyone offer help on my pictures above? |
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tazm Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2001 Posts: 530 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thorsten ,
I think your jack is correct 49 /50 beetle's !
Guido |
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usariemen Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 1745 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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I once found this one for my early 1949.
I hope it is correct. Well, Iīll use it anyway.
I like the crank with the two transmissions.
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sunnybug84 Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2008 Posts: 135 Location: Meinkot/Germany
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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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this is the one i found, somebody told me its from 1948 when the switched the jake-whole from round to squared
it also says bilstein on top and has the three dots underneath |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3776 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Is this the correct handle for this type of jack or is there some other style? If so I can add one more thing to the "need to find" list
Any other sources besides a WTB ad on theSamba? |
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