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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've searched. I cannot find any info on the window mechanisms themselves.
I'm wondering which one of the 3 in the photos is correct for a '66.

Also, I am replacing 2 out of the 5.
How do you get at the guts of the window? The levers that operate the window appear to be pressed together at 2 different pivot points and 1 pinned to the pivot point on the housing.
I want to pop it out and replace with a working crank.
Easiest method appears to be removing the pin.
Anybody out there do this? Tips?

Hope I've made myself clear. Thanks.


The originals looked like these (although there could have been variations in the years):

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The crank is held in by the two screws visible on top and the screw that holds the arm to the bar which is riveted to the glass pane holders. You should be able to remove those three screws and pull the crank out but will need to push the crank arm out of the hole it sits in on the bar I mentioned.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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srfndoc, Thanks for your response.

Maybe I'm just being thick.
This is a picture of the working end of the mechanism extended.
In this picture it shows the pinned pivot point and 1 of the pressed pivot points. The long arm is attached to the glass pane holder.
Where is this 3rd screw?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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srfndoc, Thanks for your response.

Maybe I'm just being thick.
This is a picture of the working end of the mechanism extended.
In this picture it shows the pinned pivot point and 1 of the pressed pivot points. The long arm is attached to the glass pane holder.
Where is this 3rd screw?


The 3rd screw goes in to the hole at the very end of the arm (you can see the threads in the hole). I've circled the area in this photo:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again.
I'll check it out when I get home from work.
I'm hopin' it's just that easy. Had me stymied.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks.
Piece o' cake with your explaination.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you figured it out. Post some pictures of your completed work.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1252598.jpg
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Here's pictures of 3 of the ones I changed out.
The ones I bought have 4 srew holes but all the correct profile.
I'll live with it.
And just for the record, I didn't "figure it out"...you explained it to me.
Thanks to sfrndoc I didn't take the whole damn window out to tear into it.
Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dvance wrote:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1252598.jpg
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1252597.jpg
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1252596.jpg

Here's pictures of 3 of the ones I changed out.
The ones I bought have 4 srew holes but all the correct profile.
I'll live with it.
And just for the record, I didn't "figure it out"...you explained it to me.
Thanks to sfrndoc I didn't take the whole damn window out to tear into it.
Thanks again.


Those look great, glad I could help.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:16 am    Post subject: window screws Reply with quote

Does anyone know the exact size of the screws that go all around the perimeter of the windows and holds them in? I want to order several boxes of stainless screws to replace my old rusty ones and also for my friends bus and don't wish to error.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

srfndoc wrote:
I worked with Vintage Trailer Supply to begin reproducing the jalousie glass holders and they just shipped me the first set to verify everything fits as it should:

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Huge props to Vintage Trailer Supply for putting up the funds to get these manufactured and available again.


Just to make sure I order the correct one, can you post the part number and/or direct web link?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Jalousie_Glass_Holders_013_157_p/vts-389.htm
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason for the relight? I simply wanted it to pop back into my daily scanning, as I face some rebuilding this summer. Also, if there is new info to be shared.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I've had the jalousie's in my bus for several years now.
I've camped in light rain, but recently I was on a trip where it rained CATS AND DOGS.
I have a few windows (all three on the right side) that leak.
They don't leak super bad or anything but they definitely weap at the top of the frame.
I've isolated the leak to where the window assembly itself mounts to the spacer ring.
I've got them sealed with Mortite rope caulk right now.

I just pulled the window out to remedy my leaky window situation and noticed that the spacers now have dimples where the screws go in.

I'm wondering if the rope caulk not giving very much is causing my the soft aluminum in the spacers to distort, leaving voids between the two pieces and allowing water in.

I can beat the dimples down to where they are flat again, but I'm not sure about how I should be sealing them now?
Is regular caulk a better choice (as opposed to Mortite)?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it possible for you to post some pictures? It's hard to picture what you're describing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll try to get some pictures that show what I'm talking about.
Basically it seems like the Mortite (which I think is the same thing as dum dum) is not compressing enough between the window frame and the inner spacer piece (that's screwed into the body of the bus).

When the window is screwed in (the screws you can see from the outside of the bus) it is pulling the aluminum and creating a dimple. These dimples being there shows that the inner spacer piece is not sitting flat with the window frame, at least the metal is not sitting flush.

Easy question.
Do you guys use Mortite for rope caulk (a la dum dum) or do you use something else?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go Barry.
This photo kind of shows what I'm talking about:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much dum dum are you using? I use one "rope" on the outside of the body where the spacer goes and then two "ropes" on the outside edge of the outside frame as seen here:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't remember actually.
I do know what when I installed it, I installed it on the window frame, and not on the spacer piece (like you did).
I'll try it your way.
By the way, is the brand of dum dum you're using called Mortite?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

srfndoc, can you post a photo of how you placed the dum dum (if you have one) of the corners on outside edge of the outside frame.
It doesn't look like there's enough room for two ropes.
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