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dogapult
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 Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:22 am Post subject: Its sort of stupid but......... What's a zwitter? |
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What's a zwitter?  |
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Glenn 
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: |
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A Split with a Oval dash.
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dogapult
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| thanks...I've been on this forum for a while and I always saw people talking about them and I never knew..... |
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Hebster52
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My57Oval
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| Roughly translated, it means "hybrid". or "bastard" |
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Wiggy
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| In other words, one year only, 1953. (well simply said.. to lazy to post the exact dates..) |
October 52 through March 53.
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Jason Eden
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Glenn wrote: |
| A Split with a Oval dash. |
I thought it was an oval with a split rear window and 4-5 special to that 6month parts ash tray,gas tank, int. light, starter botton, and a few others. Would not mind having a zwitter rag.
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David
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Zwitter is German for 'use the search button'
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ovalslider
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A Zwitter is not enough to be considered a Split to the true Split people and to oval people an overly expensive oval. I sought out mine because I wanted something rare and the best of both worlds. So I went for a true rag Zwitter.
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splitpartsunlimited
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:11 am Post subject: sorry for my question but ... |
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was the bastard manufactured in the cabrio version ??
there is a guy in my country that claims that his car is a zwitter cabriolet , that only few were made , that is costs a REAL FORTUNE , that someone offered him 3 milion , a Titanic souvenir and a night with Lindsay Lohan inside Herbie , but he didn`t accept and , bla bla bla bla ....i think it is bullshit , but what do you think about it ?? actually , it has a vinyl top and a non correct cabrio rear window , although this , it has won some trophies ....this last ,shows the low knowledge degree of the jurors and the poor level of the cars.... |
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53 0val
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: Re: sorry for my question but ... |
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| Libreriajenny wrote: |
was the bastard manufactured in the cabrio version ??
there is a guy in my country that claims that his car is a zwitter cabriolet , that only few were made , that is costs a REAL FORTUNE , that someone offered him 3 milion , a Titanic souvenir and a night with Lindsay Lohan inside Herbie , but he didn`t accept and , bla bla bla bla ....i think it is bullshit , but what do you think about it ?? actually , it has a vinyl top and a non correct cabrio rear window , although this , it has won some trophies ....this last ,shows the low knowledge degree of the jurors and the poor level of the cars.... |
Yes Ricardo, there were zwitter cabs. How many I don't know but it should be easy to look up. I would guess the number at several hundred. All cabrolets made between October of '52 to March of '53 would be "Zwitters."
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Blue Baron
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: The Z word |
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| I never cared for the Z word. It's unfortunate it had to enter our lexicon at all. I always referred to cars built from Oct. '52 through March of '53 as late splits or oval-dash splits. |
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johnshenry
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"A Zwitter is not enough to be considered a Split to the true Split people and to oval people an overly expensive oval."
That suits it well............. 
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53 0val
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| johnshenry wrote: |
"A Zwitter is not enough to be considered a Split to the true Split people and to oval people an overly expensive oval."
That suits it well............. |
Sorry there's no way that ugly back window would be considered anything but a split. 
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IN2VWS
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Zwitter translated = hermaphrodite
hermaphrodite = a person or thing in which two opposite qualities are combined. i.e. split and oval. |
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IN2VWS
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: sorry for my question but ... |
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| Libreriajenny wrote: |
was the bastard manufactured in the cabrio version ??
there is a guy in my country that claims that his car is a zwitter cabriolet , that only few were made , that is costs a REAL FORTUNE , that someone offered him 3 milion , a Titanic souvenir and a night with Lindsay Lohan inside Herbie , but he didn`t accept and , bla bla bla bla ....i think it is bullshit , but what do you think about it ?? actually , it has a vinyl top and a non correct cabrio rear window , although this , it has won some trophies ....this last ,shows the low knowledge degree of the jurors and the poor level of the cars.... |
Yes there were zwitter (hermaphrodite) cabrios. There is one in Sydney, built in October '52 I think.
http://members.netro.com.au/~vwcc/sm52.htm |
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Blue Baron
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| farkengruven wrote: |
| Zwitter translated = hermaphrodite |
Which is why I could never stand the word. Ugly imagery.  |
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ovalslider
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What I cannot understand about this whole Zwitter Cabrio thing is how could one tell the difference between a Zwitter rag and a stanard oval rag?
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53 0val
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| What I cannot understand about this whole Zwitter Cabrio thing is how could one tell the difference between a Zwitter rag and a stanard oval rag? |
Gas tank........ash tray......speedometer.... air cleaner......fuel filter...... distributor.......hood handle....windshield wipers.......semaphors.........interior light........they are all different from the standard oval rag. The 25hp motor was shared with the '53 oval but all ovals after '53 had 36hp motors. There are many other things but these are the most obvious differences.
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Robs '52s
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Wouldn't the term "Zwitter" no longer apply on a vert? Without the split back window there is nothing "split" about it. 
"Zwitter translated = hermaphrodite
hermaphrodite = a person or thing in which two opposite qualities are combined. i.e. split and oval."
Alot of 6 month only parts but not a Zwitter, Right? |
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