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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is a scan of an original photo that was included in the 1950 VW bus press kit. Check out how the lens is either broken or the assembly is holding water. The lens is the fluted wide sliver version and does not appear to have any markings on it. Other photos show the adjustment screws at the "Hella" position near the mount screw.

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Could it be that the first headlight rings were without a drainhole ?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: I think so! Reply with quote

Hi Guido,

as far as i know, the first rings have no drainholes.
I put them on my 50`bus.
O.K. i know my bus is not so good, but the rings are good...Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Axel,

Thanks buddy, And BTW your bus looks great !
ET is still intrested in that single wheel on the shelf !He need it for his wheel chair, it would be a shame if he had to put that chair in his car !
Please Pm me your price ! BTW Congrats on the Spain deal ! Wink


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This photo is from the classifieds and states the headlight assemblies are NOS, date stamped "50 L" or December 1953. The glass is the thin sliver style.

Guido, if you have more photos and information on these it would be much appreciated. I think this must be near the break from large sliver to small. I think all 54's would have the small sliver lens.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are all the photos from the ad, in order to preserve them in the Gallery:
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are more pictures in my ad, all the reflectors are also dated 53
I have also the same headlight here but stamped 20 M (54)
A friend found these in a old dealership in Germany last week , I bought them all ! 2 sets are already sold ! so don't wait to long ! Laughing
The llast 5 months I found several Barndoor headlights , a few big silver lenses aswel ( Don't ask, they are in a Good place now in the USA)
The youngest big silver headlights that I found were dated 32 K, but that means nothing ! These 2 lenses had a hella logo ! I also sold atleats 2 sets big silver without any logo to the same friend ! one reflector from these lights was dated 48 H (late 49 ????)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a working list of lens type and year. Please feel free to update as you see fit.

To summarize:

1949 - 1950? = Large sliver, no logos.
1950? - 1952? = Large sliver, Hella logo only.
1952? - 1953 = Large sliver, Hella and squiggly.
1953 - 1954 = Small sliver, Hella and squiggly.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anchovy wrote:
Here is a working list of lens type and year. Please feel free to update as you see fit.

To summarize:

1949 - 1950? = Large sliver, no logos.
1950? - 1952? = Large sliver, Hella logo only.
1952? - 1953 = Large sliver, Hella and squiggly.
1953 - 1954 = Small sliver, Hella and squiggly.


I do not have specific dates when they changed !
But your list looks ok for me ! But I know for sure that the big silver lens was used atleast till aug 52 (with hella logo on the lens)
The brass reflectors ended arround june 50 !
And the special headlight rings (double spring) in the same period !



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big silver no logo
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The large silver lenses ( with hella and snake) where used atleast till 34/L ! I found already a headlight from 32/L ! This was the youngest large eyebrow headlight I found till Today now it is 34/L (Sept / 53)

How I know that ?? Rolling Eyes Because I found a NOS set headlights !! Shocked Shocked

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The large silver lenses ( with hella and snake) where used atleast till 34/L ! I found already a headlight from 32/L ! This was the youngest large eyebrow headlight I found till Today now it is 34/L (Sept / 53)

How I know that ?? Rolling Eyes Because I found a NOS set headlights !! Shocked Shocked

Guido Wink

With Hella logo? and squiggly?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Kai
But correct me if I'm wrong !
Hella and snake large silver headlight dated 34L !
Sorry for the low quality picture later this week I'll have better pictures !

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big sliver, no logo's, on Mark Merrill's early BD (I think '50?):

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It's the bus here in the back:
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:46 am    Post subject: BOSCH & VW logoed Bus headlight lenses Reply with quote

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I have also found these Bosch lenses:
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They don't have a VW logo either, same question: does that make them replacements of were they made for different car brands? They also don't have the script Bosch logo as found on early beetle lenses.
And what years are these?



I have a pair of lenses as these BOSCH symmetric lenses Kai is showing, BUT with VW logo where Kai´s have the BOSCH logo. Mine have the Bosch logo on the opposite side between the circled A and NL. Sorry no pics onhand at the moment.



The "lined" area around the VW logo is larger than at later HELLA symm. buslenses but smaller tan those at the first 50-52 lenses, just as Kai´s have.

What year buses are these for?
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: BOSCH & VW logoed Bus headlight lenses Reply with quote

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I have a pair of lenses as these BOSCH symmetric lenses Kai is showing, BUT with VW logo where Kai´s have the BOSCH logo. Mine have the Bosch logo on the opposite side between the circled A and NL. Sorry no pics onhand at the moment.



The "lined" area around the VW logo is larger than at later HELLA symm. buslenses but smaller tan those at the first 50-52 lenses, just as Kai´s have.

What year buses are these for?


Now here are fotos of these BOSCH VW logoed symm. lenses, on has a tape strip with part nr. 211 941 115 D on it, both are NOS. Quite big sliver area. What year buses are they for??

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General view

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Detail of sliver area and VW logo

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Detail of oppsite side with BOSCH logos (both slightly different in position though)

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VW logo and opposite side BOSCH logo etc... in direct comparison

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Writing on lense´s side rim.

What year of splitbus might those be for?
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you check the earlir posts in this thread there is a bit of info about bosch lenses
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:25 am    Post subject: BOSCH VW logoed symm. bus headlight lenses Reply with quote

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If you check the earlir posts in this thread there is a bit of info about bosch lenses


Thanks Scotty, I did so and found that these BOSCH lenses are not BD lenses.
They are for buses mid 1955 through mid 1960, correct?!?
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anchovy wrote:
gatorwyatt wrote:
i would like to say a big"FUCK YOU" to the wiggle wire that holds the lense to the chrome ring ,as it is a pain in the ass to remove and reinstall.


I hear that. I struggled with those things on a set of buckets I recently got out of Germany. When they are rusty and break apart, they are eye-ball-seeking tetanus missiles.



BTW: These wiggle wires ONLY work with the og early headlightrings who have the inner lip. Later chromerings w/o that inner lip don´t allow to use that old fixing wires, they then slip out of their seat constantly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Doug,

Your reproductions are looking good. When will they be available?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to have some ready for the classicS.. and Hessich..but I also need to train my prairie dogs for the big prairie dog show as well... and that takes a lot of time....
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