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dieselnut Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Bill-E-Bob,
That's probably a better question for the Barndoor Mafia thread...
hth, dieselnut
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Bill-E-BoB Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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No way dieselnut! If I tell those guys I don't think a 52 bus is a barndoor, they'll have me sleepin' with the fishies in no time! |
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Z Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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The term 'barndoor' signifies the generation of bus, so even though the SC's don't have the big lid, they still have the other barndoor elements...and what makes a barndoors special goes far beyond just the big lid - the dash, the roof, all the little details, etc.
Then again, you could post on the BD thread... |
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dieselnut Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Bill-E-Bob,
I will say this. It seems there was a time when single cabs were described as barndoor _era_ single cabs by some folks. But it's in the finest American vernacular tradition to remove as many unnecessary syllables as humanly possible when speaking, so at some point you began to just see "barndoor single cabs" instead. (If confusing, insert "ambulance" for "single cab" and see how it goes!
~dieselnut
ps. Cool avatar! Took me a while to get it though....
pss. Stop thinking so much!!!! lol _________________
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Bill-E-BoB Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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dieselnut,
you'd be amazed how often I hear that...stop thinking so much...its a sickness. What can I say? Thanks to you & Z for the explanation on the barndoor, while continuing to think too much I came to the conclusion that its similar to the debate about whether or not "samba" describes all deluxe busses or just 21 & 23 windows...only nobody but me seems to care about this one. hehe
Oh & thanks for the compliment about the avatar...another example of me thinking too much. Came up with the idea when I was trying to explain the beauty of a splitties nose. Nominate me for next years chummie, thats my goal in life. |
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abuspilot Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2002 Posts: 1012 Location: Mentally, I'm in Michigan
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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I thought "barndoor" referred to the hinged cargo doors on a split as opposed to the sliders on a bay. |
So what would you call a split with a slider, a bay? Keep the ambo info coming and the BDM does need to put an educational hit on Bill-E-Bob. I am a huge fan of the ambulance bus. |
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Bill-E-BoB Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, the ambulance bus is awsome! Barndoor era, barndoor, either way. I know what you call a split with a slider, you call it just friggin' awsome. Especially a double slider 21. Mmmm...someday, someday. |
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Brian_1952 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:11 pm Post subject: Ambulance Deck Lid |
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For those Who were asking about the deck lid of a early barndoor Ambulance, Heres a picture of the oldest Ambulance in the US.
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Brian_1952 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: Bad ass Barndoor |
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In this picture is a barndoor, can you see it or not? no matter what else, it's a barndoor. suck it up.
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cris torlasco Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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That photo shows a hint of locomotive and airplane cockpit in the barndoor design. Pretty cool. Some of that simplicity and beautiful design lines were lost with the later fresh air intake/roof change. |
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ronnie Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:47 am Post subject: |
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i thought the miesen built amublances kept the barn door engine lid? |
Notice how the recess on a barndoor ambulance engine lid goes all the way to the bottom edge, where as a 55-(early) 58 lid the recess stops short of the bottom? They cut down the og lid as the guys above said. |
i meant that i thought they kept the full height b/d engine lid and you had to side load the passengers on the miesen built ambulance. or maybe i need to stop smoking crack?
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NorCalWeekender Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Genuinely, I think "barndoor" and "barndoor era" are interchangeable. For many it's just quicker to say barndoor, knowing that the other person will know (s)he means a bus built up to March of '55. <shrugs> But looking at the inside of that ambo decklid, that's definitely cut down (or something) from a BD deck.
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crofty Judas of the North
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Bill-E-BoB wrote: |
dieselnut,
you'd be amazed how often I hear that...stop thinking so much...its a sickness. What can I say? Thanks to you & Z for the explanation on the barndoor, while continuing to think too much I came to the conclusion that its similar to the debate about whether or not "samba" describes all deluxe busses or just 21 & 23 windows...only nobody but me seems to care about this one. hehe
Oh & thanks for the compliment about the avatar...another example of me thinking too much. Came up with the idea when I was trying to explain the beauty of a splitties nose. Nominate me for next years chummie, thats my goal in life. |
Samba is for buses with ragtops. You don't call a deluxe non-sunroof a 21/23 window 'cause it doesn't have the windows. Following that logic you could call a panel a kombi because it's only missing 6 windows. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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zimblewinder Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: |
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and then you could call a single cab a panel cos its not missing any windows the panel has... so therefore its a kombi too!
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UZI Platinum FUBU
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:10 am Post subject: |
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"barndoor singlecab" is perfectly acceptable _________________ Extravagant Lifestyle
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Lind Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:13 am Post subject: |
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just don't call a standard microbus a kombi. _________________ .
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crofty Judas of the North
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Even a mango one? _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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Bill-E-BoB Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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crofty wrote: |
Bill-E-BoB wrote: |
dieselnut,
you'd be amazed how often I hear that...stop thinking so much...its a sickness. What can I say? Thanks to you & Z for the explanation on the barndoor, while continuing to think too much I came to the conclusion that its similar to the debate about whether or not "samba" describes all deluxe busses or just 21 & 23 windows...only nobody but me seems to care about this one. hehe
Oh & thanks for the compliment about the avatar...another example of me thinking too much. Came up with the idea when I was trying to explain the beauty of a splitties nose. Nominate me for next years chummie, thats my goal in life. |
Samba is for buses with ragtops. You don't call a deluxe non-sunroof a 21/23 window 'cause it doesn't have the windows. Following that logic you could call a panel a kombi because it's only missing 6 windows. |
Exactly...nobody ever calls a panel a kombi 'cause its missing 6 of the windows. But we call some busses barndoors that don't have barndoors...its only missing 1 barndoor. I know its got all the other features like the cool dash & no overhang & all that stuff not to mention the age, which means surviving busses are even more rare. Its just missing the barndoor. Like Dieselnut said, I need to stop thinking so much. Its sort of like asking why we drive on a parkway & park in the driveway. Didn't mean to jack a thread, back to the ambulance. |
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malachai Samba Member
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mynameismud Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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malachai wrote: |
are barndoors the ones made in wolfsberg, and other busses the ones made in hanover? |
no. my 56 is a wolfsburg - but not a bd. _________________ Even YOU can prevent FIRES!
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