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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

This thing has been for sale near me for almost a year, what do you guys think?

http://reno.craigslist.org/cto/5663588803.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

khalimadeath wrote:
This thing has been for sale near me for almost a year, what do you guys think?

http://reno.craigslist.org/cto/5663588803.html


I thought it was an ok deal until i read that it doesn't run & the "original" 1.5 liter is all torn apart. The 74 would have had a 1.8 in most cases. If he can get a good running engine in there & make the bus able to be driven $3500 would be a good price
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

khalimadeath wrote:
This thing has been for sale near me for almost a year, what do you guys think?

http://reno.craigslist.org/cto/5663588803.html
At least $50 worth of bondo there...
Seriously, it was OE with a type 4 engine, the booster fan is still fitted. I think maybe a Riviera interior? Not Westy.
16 pictures and not a one of the front drivers side and door.
$1500 subject to inspection.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

Well, at $3500 for a non-running bus with a disassembled engine, probably worn out transmission and lots of body issues, I can see why it hasn't sold.

Someone would burn through thousands of dollars to make it drive again. Not seeing it in person, I wouldn't think more than $1k..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

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Well, at $3500 for a non-running bus with a disassembled engine, probably worn out transmission and lots of body issues, I can see why it hasn't sold.

Someone would burn through thousands of dollars to make it drive again. Not seeing it in person, I wouldn't think more than $1k..

Uhh, why do you say worn out transmission? I think I probably drove more than half a million miles in bays, more than that in Vanagons. The only tranny fails were 091/1, late Vanagons. I've fixed trannies on other early Vanagons, air cooleds with broken trannies. for customers.
Oh, I can take them apart and usually put new nose cone bushings and hockey stick and make them shift more positively. But I've hardly ever seen a bay with a bad tranny.
Does it REALLY cost thousands to rebuild a type 4 engine? I would almost NEVER bother taking apart the bottom end, unless the cam lobes were very, very bad. Not just grooved . They all get that way, but I mean pitted and spalling.
I worked in a shop that built racing motors many years ago and came to observe that the amount spent on a rebuild is almost inversely proportional the satisfaction derived.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

69doublecab wrote:
]Does it REALLY cost thousands to rebuild a type 4 engine?


Yes. Easily.

even type 1's done nicely at home with the correct parts are getting pricey.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

Picked up this '73 Sportsmobile over the weekend. I've know about it since the mid '90s, (been sitting under a tree in a pasture all this time) but had never seen it. The seller is super cool and just wants to see someone get it back on the road. Massive tow bar built onto the front (yep, we used it to tow it home!), but it's actually in really good condition structurally and the brakes even work. No major rust at all. The interior is all there, but falling apart. Check out that CB whip!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

^ need to see those interior pics!!! post em up in the sportsmobilers unite thread.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

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^ need to see those interior pics!!! post em up in the sportsmobilers unite thread.


I'll get some, but they are not pretty! It's complete, but in really sad shape. But, the pop top does go up smoothly and the material is in okay shape. A few patches and I think it'd be usable.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

Interiors were what Westfalia had all over the Riviera and Sportsmobile brands.
Westy fabrics were so strong and so pretty many stayed functional Years longer. I don't know much about Sportsmobile features, tho.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

rough /rotten is fine, just want to see an OG sporty interior
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

69doublecab wrote:
Interiors were what Westfalia had all over the Riviera and Sportsmobile brands.
Westy fabrics were so strong and so pretty many stayed functional Years longer. I don't know much about Sportsmobile features, tho.
Al


Sportsmobile used particle board and it has not held up well at all. The cushions look dirty, but together. When I post pictures (or from the one below) maybe someone can tell if they are original.

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rough /rotten is fine, just want to see an OG sporty interior


Cool. I'll get some up soon. Here is the only one I have on my phone. Our official German vehicle inspector hard at work. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

^ do I spy AC up front?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

Yep, and it looks to be complete.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

Just found this bay. I think its a 71 deluxe? correct me if i'm wrong. going back in a few days to save it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

Todays score! I hauled home this 72 bus for two hundred bucks. I'm cutting it up, but there is lots of good parts
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

Picked up a new bus over the weekend 70 one family owned hightop !!! Grandparents used it exclusively as a camper RV never driven as a daily car. One of the most rust free original paint bays I've ever seen....NO rot!!! Was given To the grandson when he graduated high school.. He gutted interior.... Crying or Very sad put a bunch of hop up parts on the motor and torqued the glandnut on the flywheel with a crescent wrench... 600 miles later it came loose.. He parked it in the barn 5 years ago until I picked it up.... I'm just glad I got it before he completed his plan of painting all the accents purple.. Rolling Eyes ...



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bay Window hunting History Reply with quote

Hmmm those freckles and that pale irish complexion Wink

looks to have had a spare on the nose for it's travels as well.


great find, and looking forward to seeing the revival thread.
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Todays score! I hauled home this 72 bus for two hundred bucks. I'm cutting it up, but there is lots of good parts


Why cut that one up? It looks solid enough.
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Picked up a new bus over the weekend 70 one family owned hightop !!! Grandparents used it exclusively as a camper RV never driven as a daily car. One of the most rust free original paint bays I've ever seen....NO rot!!! Was given To the grandson when he graduated high school.. He gutted interior.... Crying or Very sad put a bunch of hop up parts on the motor and torqued the glandnut on the flywheel with a crescent wrench... 600 miles later it came loose.. He parked it in the barn 5 years ago until I picked it up.... I'm just glad I got it before he completed his plan of painting all the accents purple.. Rolling Eyes ...



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Very nice, I want one! When he gutted the interior did he trash everything or is it in a pile in the barn somewhere?
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