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Drl1313
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| I bought a sweet 1955 ragtop semaphores matching numbers all the works.Till I dicovered it has the wrong pan.Someone has cut out the vin number and welded in the vin to match the body. Now I'm having trouble with parts. How do I identify what year the pan actually is? Thanks |
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Ben Dover
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know, maybe post some pictures..? |
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Drl1313
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Having trouble getting pics to download |
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Drl1313
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67Cabrio
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| From the pictures you posted, it looks pretty much just like the one in our '55 sedan. What parts are you having problems with? |
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Drl1313
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| Shift rod is to long and pedal assembly has nothing for gas pedal to attach to? I bought the car all taken apart so Im not sure if it is the pan or I just got random parts with it. Oh and it has 2 right rear tortion bars that look new is that a big deal? |
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RareAir
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Shift rod is to long and pedal assembly has nothing for gas pedal to attach to? |
Without a doubt, the pan you have pictured is 1953-55
Gas pedal? On a Pre '57 car, there is no actual pedal. VW used a roller pedal, which was attached directly to the cast Aluminum base-
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Drl1313
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| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| Thank you the pedal assembly I have does have a roller pedal I thought someone put that on. Any thoughts on the shift rod or totion bars? |
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RareAir
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| I bought the car all taken apart so Im not sure if it is the pan or I just got random parts with it. Oh and it has 2 right rear tortion bars that look new is that a big deal? |
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| Any thoughts on tortion bars? |
When torsion bars are first manufactured, the manufacturer usually stamps a "L" & a "R" on either end of the torsion bar. This is so they aren't mixed up later in life. The torsion bars twist a certain direction after use, therefore you don't want them twisting the opposite direction after the suspension has settled in.
You claim they look new. Most torsion bars are either an Orange/Red color or Black. Being they reside inside the torsion tube housing, they don't normally get dirty.
Example: These torsion bars are marked "R"
Example: These torsion bars are marked "L"
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RareAir
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| Shift rod is to long..... |
What are you basing the measurement against? It's possible you have the wrong one, but is there a possibility you have it installed incorrectly as well? Shift rod likes like this-
(not sure what year this example is)
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Rareair, its great of you to help this guy out.
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Drl1313
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the Help, After some searching I discovered it is the wrong shift rod and I'm Going to get new tortion bars to be on the safe side. |
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From when to when was this style of transmission mount used ? |
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Westy Steve
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:35 am Post subject: Re: 1955 ragtop pan |
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| I bought a sweet 1955 ragtop semaphores matching numbers all the works.Till I dicovered it has the wrong pan.Someone has cut out the vin number and welded in the vin to match the body. Now I'm having trouble with parts. How do I identify what year the pan actually is? Thanks |
My memory is foggy, but I think that the undercarriage also has a frame number (not just a VIN number) that you can use to date your chassis. I think it's stamped up front near the shock tower. Can someone else expound on that?
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:06 am Post subject: Re: 1955 ragtop pan |
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| Drl1313 wrote: |
| I bought a sweet 1955 ragtop semaphores matching numbers all the works.Till I dicovered it has the wrong pan.Someone has cut out the vin number and welded in the vin to match the body. Now I'm having trouble with parts. How do I identify what year the pan actually is? Thanks |
My memory is foggy, but I think that the undercarriage also has a frame number (not just a VIN number) that you can use to date your body. I think it's stamped up front near the shock tower. Can someone else expound on that? |
It's on the driver's side brake hose clamp. The OP posted a picture of it. He just didn't add it to the post.
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igtoth
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:59 am Post subject: Re: 1955 ragtop pan |
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My tortion bars below. One with no signs and other one and "I" or "1"? "1" for "R" ? Help ?
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: 1955 ragtop pan |
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| Is there an "L" at about 5 o'clock on the left hand one? |
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