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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:28 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

cbeck wrote:
The two washers per side are supposed to go between the bushing and the bolt head.

sorry, two washers in the bolt head side?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

The washers fit under the bolt head between the bolt head and the bushing.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

like a photo?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

yes.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

cbeck wrote:
yes.



Thank you!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

Really Apreciate!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

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pictures 3x3 modified stock trailing arms and 3,5 raised spindles installed...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

Se mira bien mi amigo! Me gusta como parece el frente del cuerpo.

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Esos cubos de los faros se inclinan hacia arriba y parece que van a requerir trabajo para corregir el objetivo de las luces.

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Pero veo que tienes luces al dentro ya apuntados correctamente. Me gusta!



Looks good friend! I like how the front body looks.

Those headlight buckets are tipped up and will require work to correct the aim of the lights.

But I see that you have other lights in the buckets already aimed correctly. I like it!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

Thank you Richard, front body still in process.....finally I can with the correct rear wheels camber/toe .......I just need to turn or rotate the ring of the front classic style wheels (cut stock welded) to improve the offset....Rear wheels wider with so much difference (3x3), with this new offset modification the difference will be less.
Modify the suspension was most important to me, the rest of the work is already an old friend!

Muy buen español!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

Gracias!

Cuando cambias el desplazamiento de las ruedas delanteras, hace mas difícil el direccion y aumenta el riesgo de danar la suspension delantera cuando aumenta la influencia de un impacto.

When you change the offset of the front wheels, it makes steering more difficult and increases the risk of damaging the front suspension as it increases the leverage of an impact.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

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Gracias!

Cuando cambias el desplazamiento de las ruedas delanteras, hace mas difícil el direccion y aumenta el riesgo de danar la suspension delantera cuando aumenta la influencia de un impacto.

When you change the offset of the front wheels, it makes steering more difficult and increases the risk of damaging the front suspension as it increases the leverage of an impact.


Thank you Richard, I'll keep that in mind!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:31 am    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

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Extended stock IRS trailing arms to 3x3, 3mm flat metal plate. In the pictures pre MIG welded final work.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

Pablovent,

The arms look great Very Happy and you sure work fast. Also, any luck with your 010 trans?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

Yes your trailing arms looks great. Baja looking good too.
I would recommend adding some kind of material (round tubing my prefer) from the inner pivot point to the far end if the trailing arm to keep it from bending.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

Unless he was going to beat the snot out of it, his bracing looks pretty good. The arms that I have seen bend, usually twist in the area of the bearing carrier.

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However, since he has plated that area, I don't think it will bend there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

Where can I get a fixture like the one pictured?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

You have to make them. I have one and don't plan on building any more arms. PM me if interested.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

After seeing many trailing arms bent from stock bugs to race cars, I going say it again, the arms need more strengthening to hold up to being extended. Even stock arms need reinforcement when used off road. Since I started playing with buggies in the 1970 I seen all kinds of things happen to trailing arms that were not reinforce. I even seen on one race car where the piece that is welded to the trailing arm where the spring plate attaches completely rip off the arm.
This is what I did when I lengthen a set of arms 2in
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For stock trailing arms this how I reinforce them. Hi Jumper/Prowlers use to sell kits to do this. Mine are a copy of them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

I agree very strongly with Joe. Pablo's arms may look nice, but the gusset ending at the spring plate bracket concentrates bending force right there. Even street use is likely to bend those arms.

Yo pienso fuertamente con Jose. El tiene razon. Los brazos de Pablo pueden tener un aspecto agradable, pero las cartelas que terminan en el soporte de placa de muelle concentran fuerza de flexion alli mismo. Incluso el uso de la calle es probable que se doblen los brazos.

The tubular reinforcement as Joe shows is just what I had in mind. The arms may still be reinforced just like Joe's.

El refuerzo tubular como se muestra Jose es justo lo que tenia en mente. Los brazos todavia se pueden reforzar al igual que los brazos de Jose.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:41 am    Post subject: Re: stock IRS trailing arms longer work advice? Reply with quote

Another to agree with the need for additional braces

Mine broke right past where his reinforcement is
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