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Utiledulci
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 Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: Wiring an externally regulated alternator |
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| Still have my regulator...will an externally regulated alternator wire right up to it? What's the gig? |
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Erik G
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bill may
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Utiledulci
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Location: Marlboro OH
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: Wiring an externally regulated alternator |
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| Ok, so you answered one question, that is "no" to using my regulator. Can anyone answer the more important question of how do I wire it up then? I saw the info from "Speedy Jim" and the wiring diagram but it does me no good if I don't know what type of regulator to use. Hello? I know its not rocket science. It's an old VW. |
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Russ Wolfe
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Wiring an externally regulated alternator |
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| aenonauto wrote: |
| Ok, so you answered one question, that is "no" to using my regulator. Can anyone answer the more important question of how do I wire it up then? I saw the info from "Speedy Jim" and the wiring diagram but it does me no good if I don't know what type of regulator to use. Hello? I know its not rocket science. It's an old VW. |
It is rocket science when you get into electronic voltage regulators.
What is tha actual alternator that you have?? Can you get us a picture?
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Utiledulci
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: Alternator |
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| I can't figure out how to post a pic on this page...I'll put one in the Gallery under Microbuses... |
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Russ Wolfe
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Here it is, straight off the Samba.
Part you want is in the lower left corner.
Go to the technical section under wiring, Type 1, 74 up with external regulator.
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sloans265
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Why did you even decide to use that outdated unit, with out having figured wiring part out first? Even after you get the wiring problem solved you still have to get a reg. I've heard those are getting harder to find(I could be wrong). Do yourself a favor and either put back on the Generator that went with the reg you got or get yourself a AL82N. Internally regulated NEW Bosch alt. If $ is an issue go to any auto chain and order one of their rebuilt AL82X (bosch #).
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Utiledulci
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:43 am Post subject: Alternator |
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| This unit just happened to come with the motor I just picked up, thought I'd use it but it looks like its not feasible. Just gonna go with my old generator for now to get back on the road. Thanks for your help. |
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sloans265
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THat would be your best bet. I just found the reg you need for that alt. Bosch # 0 190 600 017. $67 at CIP1. Kind of high considering for @ $40 more you could get a new internally reg. alt. Save yourself any grief and run that gen. 
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bill may
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| Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Wiring an externally regulated alternator |
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| aenonauto wrote: |
| Hello? I know its not rocket science. It's an old VW. |
im a school janitor,and i figured out you need a 73/74 voltage regulater for an alternater.
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roberto
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Is what everyone is trying to say, is that the reg is specific to those motorola alt's. no ifs, ands, or buts.
and your best bet would be to move on to a newer internally regulated unit. other wise go back to a genny/reg set up. |
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ollie
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here you go...
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hsimpson
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is this alternator internal or external regulated?
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sloans265
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| is this alternator internal or external regulated? |
That one in the pic is externally regulated. See the 1 large post(wire to battery) and the the 3 prong connector (going to reg) An internally regulated would just have 2 conections. One to the battery (post) and one for the warning light (male spade terminal)
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Scorcho
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Wiring an externally regulated alternator |
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Trying to wire my internally regulated generator right now and these are the cables I have on my regulator. I've been reading about blue to green but I don't have a green wire. Can anyone help me by telling me which wires join together? |
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Wiring an externally regulated alternator |
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Do you mean internally regulated alternator? If so then connect red to the big post and blue to the small spade.
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Scorcho
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Wiring an externally regulated alternator |
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| Do you mean internally regulated alternator? If so then connect red to the big post and blue to the small spade. |
Yes alternator. Still used to having a generator obviously haha. So I don't need the wires that are connected to the D+ and DF? Just need to extend the red and blue one? |
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: Wiring an externally regulated alternator |
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| Do you mean internally regulated alternator? If so then connect red to the big post and blue to the small spade. |
Yes alternator. Still used to having a generator obviously haha. So I don't need the wires that are connected to the D+ and DF? Just need to extend the red and blue one? |
Yep, you can ditch the old regulator too, unless it's used as a terminal block to connect the battery to the rest of the bus.
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Scorcho
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| Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Wiring an externally regulated alternator |
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| Wow that's actually pretty simple thanks!!! |
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