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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Next step as previously mentioned was the conversion of the front bumper mounts.

I removed the bumper mounts...

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and blasted & primed them.

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Due to the different pressing of the later front quarters i used, the bumper mount needed to be modified to fit properly.

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big gap

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I made a template out of paper and transfered it to some 2mm steel

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cut off the flange from the mount and bent the built metal piece into the right shape

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after welding, grinding and blasting it looked like that:

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widened vs stock bumper mount

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aligned and welded:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Do you have the measurements for your bumper adaption piece ? If that inner panel is the only one available there will be others looking to make it fit .
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

that is some nice work!! cant wait to see more pics
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

grandpa pete wrote:
Do you have the measurements for your bumper adaption piece ? If that inner panel is the only one available there will be others looking to make it fit .


Measurements vary depending on where you cut the flange of the bumpers mount.... also this is not very difficult to measure Wink



Thanks for all the compliments! Embarassed Smile



I blasted the horn mount and primed it with weld thru primer on the inside
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Installed and primed
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Wie gehts! You're bringing this bug back from the dead. Excellent work!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:53 am    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Front end is finished Cool
It starts to look like a car again Wink

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Front apron aligned and welded on. The hood latch was zinc plated.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Amazing work!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Bene, where's the next update on your ratty fuckin' cool project?
We're waiting Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

I've been a bit lazy with updates...

I managed to source a better 62 pan for cheap. So i will not use the original pan...
or whats left of it. I took some pictures together with the panels i cut out of the body.


I only cut out the leftovers of the floorpans.
All the missing metall of the frame head and napoleon hat rusted away!!
However the paint still looks nice on the inside Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

You are a brave man nice work
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Regarding the pictures of the original pan, most of you will agree it was far beyond for being safed Smile

Thats why i bought another 62 pan from the local classifieds for the price that the repro panels would have cost to fix my old one(also safed me a lot of work).

The condition was described as "No rust repair needed".
That was not 100% the case but still the pan was in great shape.

It needed minor rust repair at both napoleonhat bottom plates, one outter piece of the napoleon hat and one jack stand mount.

"old" vs. "new"
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100% original including the 62 only heater outlets
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Before blasting i fixed all the rust issues i mentioned above.


First was the area behind the jack stand mount....

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...the first napoleon hat bottom plate...
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...and the second, including the napoleon hat itself.

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i decided to weld up the holes as the metal still was strong
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view from the outside - already ground down
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Bottom plate:
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grinded
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Now the pan was 100% solid again and was ready for blasting and zinc coating. (called "Flammspritzverzinken" in german)

Haulin in style Cool
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The white coat is zinc. The zinc is melted and shot onto the pan while liquid. Probably the best way to prevent your pan from corrosion Wink (Still needs to be painted)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

After zinc coating the pan was painted.

1. layer: grey
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2. layer: matt black
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I also applied seam sealer. I taped of the areas around the seam for a clean look
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3. layer: gloss black
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Looks almost to nice for a rat look project Embarassed Cool

Now i need to finish welding on the body that i can get it also in covered in paint!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

very good result !
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Very, very nice. Did you graft the old chassis number? Or will you register it under the new one?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

bobnorman wrote:
Very, very nice. Did you graft the old chassis number? Or will you register it under the new one?



Thank you Smile

No i didn't graft the old number. The new pan came with papers and the car didn't. So this suited actually quite well Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Back to the body:

I used the repair panels of hookeys panel shop from the UK to repair the front windscreen corners.
Really good panels for a good price Wink


The repair panel was a bit to short. So i bent a piece of sheetmetal to extend it.
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welded and ground down
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I cut out the rotten metal to make room for the repair panel.
As you can see in the pictures, the area of the dash behind the cutout corner was also rotten.
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rotten metal cut away and area prepped with rust converter
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Windscreen corner in place. I forgot to take pictures of the repair of the part of the dash. But you can see the fresh metal behind the screen corner. The radius still needs to be corrected
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First, the area behind the seal strip on the cowl looked solid but after a quick clean up.... it didnt anymore Rolling Eyes So i had to weld them up to.
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Some time ago, next to my garage a new house with 5 flats was built. And these new neighbours aren't very happy with whats going on in my garage.
Especially the noisy things as grinding...
And as i dont want to overstrain their nervs, i came up with the idea of grinding down the welds somewhere else.

I loaded the body onto a trailer and grabbed my generator to drive into the middle of nowhere Laughing
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Set up camp Razz
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After grinding down all weld it looked like this:

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Same procedure on the drivers side
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Did you fabricate the patch metal for the hood edge along the cowl? Or were you able to fill the metal by welding up each of the rust holes, as you mentioned? Cool

On your windshield corner patches, did you notice if your Beetle already had the two small drain holes near the corners? The original metal looked too rotted away to tell. They'd look like on this '66-
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Rome wrote:
Did you fabricate the patch metal for the hood edge along the cowl?
Or were you able to fill the metal by welding up each of the rust holes, as you mentioned? Cool

On your windshield corner patches, did you notice if your Beetle already had the two small drain holes near the corners?
The original metal looked too rotted away to tell. They'd look like on this '66-


Hey Rome,
I did a combination out of both. Where the metal around the rust holes was still solid enough i just welded them up.
In the middle i welded in a flat piece of sheetmetal.


The drain holes are already drilled. I forgot to drill them before i took pictures Rolling Eyes

I guess it had drain holes from factory. Without them, water remains between the window rubber and the windscreen corner and can't drain off.
Missing drain holes result in extensiv corrosion. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: The "Gartenkäfer" - '62 resurrection Reply with quote

Wow...I am amazed by your talent. Keep up the awesome work. I am inspired for sure!
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