Brexit and it's influence on bus prices

[HarryFD]

[Alan Brase]

Thoughts at random, not prioritized:
1. You guys are a thoughtful, intelligent and well spoken group.
2. Short term effects of BREXIT might be that Northern Ireland and Scotland leave the UK. After 400 years, many feel it is time. That will be a very complicated matter for Northern Ireland. Scotland, less so. Self determination seemed a good idea for the 13 north American colonies some time back. It might be too early to say it was a good move, but I don't think too early.
3. Yes, overseas buyers should take advantage of the exchange rate to buy all the steering pegs and Brit made products in the short term. This makes our British suppliers even stronger and frankly, I'm glad to have them.
4. Few nice bays in US? I've been subscribed to internet lists near 20 years and for many of those years Karl Von Salzen was one of the best commentators. To say he was DISMAYED with the number of beautiful buses processed and destroyed at the u-pull-its was an understatement. Bless his soul, Karl would go there often, pulling off key parts and recycling them so others could continue to enjoy their hobby, as he did his 2 green campers.(One for his daughter).
5. The real enemy to the continued existence of these vehicles is one's crabby neighbors, the SUN and RAIN, and the high scrap metal market.
6. Raise a toast to Everett. And Ben Pon. And a thousand others before us.
Al
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Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home

[Happyfolk]

Be patient. US buyers will be able to buy nice UK buses soon for pennies on the pound.
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'79 Westfalia Deluxe Campmobile, 2.0L CA FI, Mexico Beige

[khalimadeath]

[cdennisg]

This has been a very informative and interesting read. I have to claim a certain level of ignorance to how global economics operate, so the descriptions here have helped me understand some of what is and will be happening.

Please continue. I like to learn new things.
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[Xevin]

[Jalabert]

I think it gets a lot more interesting yet. (I'm a UK expat, btw...and I voted remain. Doesn't mean I don't think there aren't serious systemic flaws with the EU - but I digress...)

Scotland voted to stay. Part of the devolution laws is that if there's any change in the constitutional arrangements of the UK then it needs to be ratified by all the devolved parliaments - Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The first person the leavers need to do a deal with is the Scottish first minister, not the EU.

Northern Ireland is another clusterf*ck waiting to happen. Since the Good Friday Agreement it's been a soft, mostly unpoliced border. There's a choice of leaving that as is, and rendering pointless any attempts to control illegal immigration from the EU, or you could put it back and risk a wave of Irish nationalist fury. Or you could put the border at the English side of the border, and piss off all the Unionists.

The architect of the leave campaign said beforehand if the vote was 70-30 in favour of stay, it was game over, but if it was 48-52 then the issue wouldn't go away. Well, it was 48-52, just the other way...this story ain't done yet and the fallout hasn't even begun to be guessed at.

Both political parties split, a massive political void...and no-one seems to know what's happening next...
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'73 westy, 1700 type 4 with 34icts

[old DKP driver]

This may change in the next week as Belgium will need to also answer as the UK
has really jumped the gun and it could backfire on the Britt's in the coming
week. Not Weeks.

Buy now and have the parts shipped asap.
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V.W.owner since 1967

[Alan Brase]

[Abscate]

I hedged 10k sterling last week figuring

Remain...I'm out fees
Exit...pound will tank.

Now I can afford semaphores for my 54!!

I'm also expat British but could not vote in this one.
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[Spike0180]

I think that the US market is currently becoming more of a driver as well. So I don't think that this will have a large effect. It'll drag it down a little maybe, but not enough for the US market to feel it. Import costs will prevent the effect.
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Brutis Patches Izabich: 1970 VW Transporter - 1776cc DP
Current State: Projects never truly end...
Location: Grosse Pointe, Michigan
Other cars: 2003 F150, 2003 Jetta GLI vr6-6sp

Sambastic: adj; the quality of being nit picky, elitist, expecting everyone to do things the way they believe is best with no regard to situation, "sambastic"

[Xevin]

[Alan Brase]

The real point was that if there are certain parts ONLY available in the UK, it would be a good idea to pull the trigger SOON on the deal.
Oh it's a crapshoot, but the GBP will likely go down level out then come back part way. Nothing settled till artikel 50 is begun. Maybe Parliament will never start artikel 50, either. It's their call.
WRT bus parts prices, the lower pound is a boon to those Brit sellers sending stuff this way.
The good sheet metal guys, for instance.
Bus Depot has some relationship with Just Kampers. Their prices might go down a bit.
Speak up, Ron....
Al
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Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home

[Xevin]

^^^^ that right there
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Keep on Busin'

[SamboSamba22]

69doublecab is on the money.
Surprisingly enough, looking through the classifieds for vehicles for sale, not just buses, but all of the assembly options, there sure does seem to be a noticeably percentage increase of ghias, bugs, and buses for sale in the UK.

To the remark of the US market playing a large roll in the value sustainability and improvement overall of the supply and demand, I believe it is indeed validated by the number of guys seeking out the rusty gold, finding temporary homes, until via resources such as the classifieds here on the Samba allow to find the buyers wanted and needed for the VW community and love to continue to grow.
Supply and demand are both, hand and hand, and I believe as we speak, there are good hands shaking on deals of beautiful to-be VW’s soon to see the open road.
A toast, indeed, to the late Ben Pon Sr. for creating the market and opportunity, and to the wonderful Everett for allowing them to come together and us to network, friend or foe , here on the Samba.
P.S. - I always thought that vendors in the UK were pricey but you get what you pay for, and I’ve always seen great items at shows from the British shops. Aside from the dollar exchange, we as a community will keep the market strong and steady!
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Oct. ’67 Double Cab (’68 Crew Cab)
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[NASkeet]

[SamboSamba22]

Cmon now, don't think the tax havens will be subjected to restrictions IN or OUT of the EU!
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The Bus Barn Ltd. Co.

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March '69 Delivery (Panel Bus)
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[SGKent]

it is also possible that some will see this, when combined with auction prices flattening, as a momentary plateau to bus prices, If so some parts stashes may come out of storage.
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“Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin

[hearny13]

Very interesting reading you American guys talking about Brexit. Nobody has picked up that Cameron didnt have to call this referendum. He pledged this in his election manifesto to get back in as PM. Well it worked he got re-elected but found there was a bullet in the chamber on Thursday morning, as he played russian roulette with the UK. He empowered the voters, nobody else.

I voted with my head not my heart and accept the decision. Time will tell if its right or wrong.

On a more important note, I have an Westfalia Berlin Delux from Ohio. I cannot see the love for aircooled VW's dropping but I could see importing from USA doing so, due to exchange rate. Mind who knows as we live in uncertain times.

Keep the faith, Guys
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1978 Westfalia Camper

[HelmutofBuffalo]