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tmartintk Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2016 Posts: 19 Location: Greenville sc
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:07 pm Post subject: no power |
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Hey..I'm going to try to explain this the best I can. I have a rail buggy with a 1972 1600 dual port. I can shift through first and second gears normal...but when I shift to third and fourth I gain no additional power..it still feels like I'm in second...what would cause this ..it's has a hydraulic clutch |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5291 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:09 am Post subject: Re: no power |
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Throttle opening all the way?
too big of back tires? _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works" |
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5593 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:31 am Post subject: Re: no power |
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I can shift through first and second gears normal...but when I shift to third and fourth I gain no additional power..it still feels like I'm in second.. |
If the RPMS don't change, you just think your shifting into higher gears. _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
Yard Art: 2 Sandrails
Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs-
VW Wiring = It's just wires |
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tmartintk Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2016 Posts: 19 Location: Greenville sc
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:33 am Post subject: Re: no power |
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runamoc wrote: |
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I can shift through first and second gears normal...but when I shift to third and fourth I gain no additional power..it still feels like I'm in second.. |
If the RPMS don't change, you just think your shifting into higher gears. |
What would cause that..first second and reverse work fine ..but third and forth run the same speed and rpm as second |
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runamoc Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 5593 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:02 am Post subject: Re: no power |
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tmartintk wrote: |
runamoc wrote: |
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I can shift through first and second gears normal...but when I shift to third and fourth I gain no additional power..it still feels like I'm in second.. |
If the RPMS don't change, you just think your shifting into higher gears. |
What would cause that..first second and reverse work fine ..but third and forth run the same speed and rpm as second |
Maybe the shifter 'fork' inside of the transaxle end cap isn't engaging. _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 44 yrs - Plan B: '81 Rabbit Diesel LS Deluxe - Plan C: '72 Ghia
Yard Art: 2 Sandrails
Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs-
VW Wiring = It's just wires |
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David_nc_72std Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2015 Posts: 841 Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:03 am Post subject: Re: no power |
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tmartintk wrote: |
I can shift through first and second gears normal...but when I shift to third and fourth I gain no additional power..it still feels like I'm in second...what would cause this ..it's has a hydraulic clutch |
Has the car always been like this, or it it a recent development?
Just to verify, you do mean a hydraulically operated clutch, and not a torque converter. |
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tmartintk Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2016 Posts: 19 Location: Greenville sc
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:55 am Post subject: Re: no power |
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David_nc_72std wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
I can shift through first and second gears normal...but when I shift to third and fourth I gain no additional power..it still feels like I'm in second...what would cause this ..it's has a hydraulic clutch |
Has the car always been like this, or it it a recent development?
Just to verify, you do mean a hydraulically operated clutch, and not a torque converter. |
Yes hydraulic operated clutch ...and it's been like this since I got it |
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tmartintk Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2016 Posts: 19 Location: Greenville sc
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: no power |
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Would low transmission fluid cause this |
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David_nc_72std Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2015 Posts: 841 Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: no power |
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tmartintk wrote: |
...and it's been like this since I got it |
Any chance the previous owner changed the 3rd/4th gears to something with a gear ratio closer to 2nd? |
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tmartintk Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2016 Posts: 19 Location: Greenville sc
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: no power |
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David_nc_72std wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
...and it's been like this since I got it |
Any chance the previous owner changed the 3rd/4th gears to something with a gear ratio closer to 2nd? |
I have no clue ...would low transmission fluid cause it...I kind of feels like the clutch is still pressed ...like its not completely releasing ..but doesn't do it in first and second ..only third and fourth |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9826 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: no power |
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tmartintk wrote: |
David_nc_72std wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
...and it's been like this since I got it |
Any chance the previous owner changed the 3rd/4th gears to something with a gear ratio closer to 2nd? |
I have no clue ...would low transmission fluid cause it...I kind of feels like the clutch is still pressed ...like its not completely releasing ..but doesn't do it in first and second ..only third and fourth |
I believe that your clutch might be slipping-. Worn out or oiled up.-------is this your first car (or whatever it is) with a manual transmission? |
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tmartintk Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2016 Posts: 19 Location: Greenville sc
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: no power |
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iowegian wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
David_nc_72std wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
...and it's been like this since I got it |
Any chance the previous owner changed the 3rd/4th gears to something with a gear ratio closer to 2nd? |
I have no clue ...would low transmission fluid cause it...I kind of feels like the clutch is still pressed ...like its not completely releasing ..but doesn't do it in first and second ..only third and fourth |
I believe that your clutch might be slipping-. Worn out or oiled up.-------is this your first car (or whatever it is) with a manual transmission? |
No this is my third rail buggy |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9826 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: no power |
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tmartintk wrote: |
iowegian wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
David_nc_72std wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
...and it's been like this since I got it |
Any chance the previous owner changed the 3rd/4th gears to something with a gear ratio closer to 2nd? |
I have no clue ...would low transmission fluid cause it...I kind of feels like the clutch is still pressed ...like its not completely releasing ..but doesn't do it in first and second ..only third and fourth |
I believe that your clutch might be slipping-. Worn out or oiled up.-------is this your first car (or whatever it is) with a manual transmission? |
No this is my third rail buggy |
Well, then I suppose you have a notion of what a slipping clutch feels like, no?
Unless your other rail buggies have been rollin' with the Powerglide or Dynaflow. |
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tmartintk Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2016 Posts: 19 Location: Greenville sc
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: no power |
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iowegian wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
iowegian wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
David_nc_72std wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
...and it's been like this since I got it |
Any chance the previous owner changed the 3rd/4th gears to something with a gear ratio closer to 2nd? |
I have no clue ...would low transmission fluid cause it...I kind of feels like the clutch is still pressed ...like its not completely releasing ..but doesn't do it in first and second ..only third and fourth |
I believe that your clutch might be slipping-. Worn out or oiled up.-------is this your first car (or whatever it is) with a manual transmission? |
No this is my third rail buggy |
Well, then I suppose you have a notion of what a slipping clutch feels like, no?
Unless your other rail buggies have been rollin' with the Powerglide or Dynaflow. |
No I have no clue what one feels like |
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Mos6502 Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2015 Posts: 727
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: no power |
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tmartintk wrote: |
runamoc wrote: |
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I can shift through first and second gears normal...but when I shift to third and fourth I gain no additional power..it still feels like I'm in second.. |
If the RPMS don't change, you just think your shifting into higher gears. |
What would cause that..first second and reverse work fine ..but third and forth run the same speed and rpm as second |
Are you completely sure the rpm doesn't change in relation to a given speed in a given gear?
If the clutch is slipping you'll have more of a problem in high gears than low gears, it would be best that you check the adjustment of the clutch. |
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tmartintk Samba Member
Joined: May 18, 2016 Posts: 19 Location: Greenville sc
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:08 am Post subject: Re: no power |
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Mos6502 wrote: |
tmartintk wrote: |
runamoc wrote: |
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I can shift through first and second gears normal...but when I shift to third and fourth I gain no additional power..it still feels like I'm in second.. |
If the RPMS don't change, you just think your shifting into higher gears. |
What would cause that..first second and reverse work fine ..but third and forth run the same speed and rpm as second |
Are you completely sure the rpm doesn't change in relation to a given speed in a given gear?
If the clutch is slipping you'll have more of a problem in high gears than low gears, it would be best that you check the adjustment of the clutch. |
It's got a hydraulic clutch slave ..what would be best way to adjust |
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