Running hot

[ALANSD]

I mentioned this somewhere...my Thing has a large oil cooler with an electric fan, switch installed between the seats.
I am still missing some tin, the cooler helps keep the temps down. Check out the fan size..that baby is a bit LOUD!
An electric fuel pump is also installed.

[vwwestyman]

I've gotta wonder how much air is actually being pulled through the cooler vs around the cooler?

Air, like water, takes the path of least resistance. With the fan poking so far outside the sides of the cooler, I would have to guess that a very large percentage of air that goes through the fan totally circumvents the cooler altogether.
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[vwwestyman]

I was thinking about that fan a little bit more.

I think if you made a shroud of sorts to cover the areas from the cooler to the edges of the fan, you'd then force all of the air the fan pulls to go through the cooler and increase the efficiency of the whole package. Probably would be fairly easy to make a "good enough" shroud out of some sheet metal.
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President, Wild Westerner Club

1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
My Thing

[Bruce]

[vw moses]

FRESH AIR!
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[74 Thing]

Is that really loud?

[mondshine]

While I was working on my "Boob Tube" cooling duct,

I took the car for a quick spin with the duct off, and just a big open hole in front of the fan inlet.

It sounded like there was a 747 in the back seat.

[vw moses]

my mod is pointing up ward, so it(sound)projects up some what.
i may make some sides to really direct the waves.(2"'s)upwards
the whole car is noisy, so it don't matter to me, actually hear the mtr. good and the most noise is when i give the gas, crusing no diffrence than before.
its a radical Thing-also run w/no top at all. crazy ,but got to keep my mtr. cooler and happy
as a whole not for the stereo lovers--mine don't have radieo,etc.
Modshine thats clean looking--i like it.
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73 thing-gone
66 beetle-gone
62 beetle-gone
57 beetle-gone
convertable-beetle-w/bugspray & screamer dist.(019) gone
"Where There's a Will There's a Way"
63 one of a kind beetle. 57 dash,double rear window--sweet!

[Wildthings]

I don't get out on the freeway much with my T181, but did today. After running 65-67 mph for 60 miles my oil temps were just under 170°F. Fairly stock engine with either 5w40 or 10w40 in the crankcase.

[Bashr52]

I just got my new trans installed, similar gearing as the OP (3.88 R&P with .89 4th). It is a real highway cruiser now, it really wants to move. I do have smaller rear tires, but after a 45 minute drive home yesterday between highway, rural state roads, and stop and go, my oil temp was between 215-220 when I got home, which I confirmed with a thermometer in the dipstick hole.

I'm turning 2800 RPM at 60 mph.

2232 with all the stock cooling tin and seals in place, flaps wired open, additional air cutout on the front engine tin.

[ALANSD]

[ALANSD]

I went ahead and ordered the savemybug oil stick. Better safe than sorry.

[MConstable]

[GI Joe]

[Wildthings]

[oasis]

Here is the latest on my Thing.

The mechanic drove it for 45 minutes. The gauge at the end gave as high of a reading as 220°F. The oil was immediately measured at the sending unit as 186°F, 200°F at the oil pump, and 180°F somewhere else (can't read my scribble while I was multitasking). A laser pointer type of thermometer was used.

I am getting the Thing back later this week (other non-related things are being done). I hope I will receive my dipstick thermometer by then. I haven't heard from aircooled.net yet about my order, so that's puzzling. I know some prefer the dipstick method in contrast to my shop.

A new sending unit was ordered for the gauge.

Again, I appreciate all of the input I have received. We'll see.

Edit: tracking update says dipstick thermometer should arrive tomorrow.
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[doublecanister]

what's a best method to calibrate one of those dipstick thermometer from
save my bug?

I think I tried it as is, and used a infrared thermometer to test because I couldn't find a candy thermometer that got hot enough to go above 212.

Mine seems close enough but now since yall reminded me I probably should double check it.

Note: the only gripe I have about it is removing it to check my oil.
I probably should make it so I have a electric plug to unplug then remove due to it's length it gets in a bit of a twist with the generator belt.
you can wiggle it all around to get it out ok,
but Once it's out I use my old dipstick to check the oil.

T
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[mondshine]

There was a TV game show back when I was a kid (actually hosted by Johnny Carson) called "Who Do You Trust?"

If you have several thermometers, chances are that no two read identically, and even if they do...are they accurate? So which one do you believe?
It seems that with each additional method of temperature measurement comes new doubt. Which measurement is accurate, where do you measure, etc.

There is a huge variation in oil temperature in different parts of the engine.
I would be surprised if the oil that's dripping off of the exhaust valve stems inside the valve covers isn't a good 50-75 degrees hotter than the oil in the bottom of the sump.
So you've got to pick a spot to measure and stick with it.

After a while, you will get a "feel" for what temperatures to expect in various driving conditions. Then, you will readily spot something unusual on the gauge, and act accordingly.

Main thing is...watch the road, not the gauges.

Good luck, Mondshine

[ALANSD]

Just got my dipstick thingie from Savemybug. Pretty quick shipping.
Now to install it.

[KAmes]