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igtoth
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:40 pm Post subject: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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Hi guys, I have deluxe oval window beetle July 57.
I'm looking to buy the correct ignition switch for my car.
I see a lot differences, specially keys designs and code number.
For example. SG Code 113 and SG Code 134.
What are the differences and which one is correct for my car?
Thank you!
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1957 Typ 113 - Polarsilver
1959 Typ 113 - Flint Grey
1975 Typ 221 - Last yr Brazilian Split Window
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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... SG is 1954 to 1959 for model 113 bug... should have 4 screw-on connectors in the back... 1960 has 3 screw-on connectors... pre '54 had a push button. So, the ignition is just an on/off switch.
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5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
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igtoth
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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| ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
| ... SG is 1954 to 1959 for model 113 bug... should have 4 screw-on connectors in the back... 1960 has 3 screw-on connectors... pre '54 had a push button. So, the ignition is just an on/off switch. |
Thank you..
How about the SG codes? If I have a SG 134 ignition switch, can I use a SG 113 key ?
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1957 Typ 113 - Polarsilver
1959 Typ 113 - Flint Grey
1975 Typ 221 - Last yr Brazilian Split Window
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60ragtop
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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the codes should be the same.
If you have a good switch with out a key you can get a key cut from one of the locksmiths listed on the samba.
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Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked  |
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igtoth
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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| 60ragtop wrote: |
the codes should be the same.
If you have a good switch with out a key you can get a key cut from one of the locksmiths listed on the samba. |
So, 113 symmetrical and 134 asymmetrical ? Do you know if both were supplied on a car from the factory ?
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1957 Typ 113 - Polarsilver
1959 Typ 113 - Flint Grey
1975 Typ 221 - Last yr Brazilian Split Window
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ZENVWDRIVER
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Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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| igtoth wrote: |
| ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
| ... SG is 1954 to 1959 for model 113 bug... should have 4 screw-on connectors in the back... 1960 has 3 screw-on connectors... pre '54 had a push button. So, the ignition is just an on/off switch. |
Thank you..
How about the SG codes? If I have a SG 134 ignition switch, can I use a SG 113 key ? |
... if you were walking down the street and you saw another VW, that you loved more than your car, could you pull your car's key out and use it to steel the one you loved? Ummm, that's what keys are for... security. You key will only work in your lock.
There is a VW lock guy, here on thesamba, from Altoona, Pa... send him a message asking if he can change codes on an ignition switch.
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5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
8/50, gray 11A Beetle
6/52, pastel green 11C - SOLD
11/4/52, black Zwitter - SOLD to my little bro.
1954 Porsche, pre A, with VW 36 horse- SOLD
1/54, black 11C Beetle - TRADED
2/55 Iceland green Beetle, on a 1965 pan
3/55 113 Beetle, stratos silver
1955 Messerschmitt KR175 - SOLD, sadly
1960 single cab
1962 SO33, with SO 42 interior
9/63 Pacific blue, Ghia
'87 Toyota MR2
'02 WestFORDia E-150, GAVE TO OUR SON
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igtoth
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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| ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
| igtoth wrote: |
| ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
| ... SG is 1954 to 1959 for model 113 bug... should have 4 screw-on connectors in the back... 1960 has 3 screw-on connectors... pre '54 had a push button. So, the ignition is just an on/off switch. |
Thank you..
How about the SG codes? If I have a SG 134 ignition switch, can I use a SG 113 key ? |
... if you were walking down the street and you saw another VW, that you loved more than your car, could you pull your car's key out and use it to steel the one you loved? Ummm, that's what keys are for... security. You key will only work in your lock.
There is a VW lock guy, here on thesamba, from Altoona, Pa... send him a message asking if he can change codes on an ignition switch. |
I probably expressed myself badly.
I mean if you buy a blank key code SG 113, can I make a copy of SG 134, and this new GS 113 (which was blank), work in the cylinder of SG 134 key?
Asking that because I found a NOS SG 134 ignition switch, but the keys are unsymmetrical and I would like to run with symmetrical keys. So I would have to buy new blank keys symmetrical.
Or the Code itself 113 or 134 are the shapes on the blade?
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1957 Typ 113 - Polarsilver
1959 Typ 113 - Flint Grey
1975 Typ 221 - Last yr Brazilian Split Window
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60ragtop
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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SG is the key profile and the numbers are how the key is cut to fit the switch stamped with that same code.
pic of different SG code keys from the gallery
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Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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| maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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igtoth
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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| 60ragtop wrote: |
SG is the key profile and the numbers are how the key is cut to fit the switch stamped with that same code.
pic of different SG code keys from the gallery
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Now, everything makes more sense. Thanks!
Do you know what is the correct one for a Oval windows 57 deluxe beetle? SG symmetrical or unsymmetrical ? Or both type are correct for ?
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1957 Typ 113 - Polarsilver
1959 Typ 113 - Flint Grey
1975 Typ 221 - Last yr Brazilian Split Window
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JeffRens
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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| Anyone have an old precut SG key they'll sell me. I want to code my cylinder to an already cut key... Thanks |
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EverettB 
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Bruce
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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\Do not buy this key. It is not an SG key. It's SC, as indicated by the stamp on it.
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Bruce
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| Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: [HELP] Ignition switch |
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| igtoth wrote: |
| SG symmetrical or unsymmetrical ? Or both type are correct for ? |
You need to come up with a different way to ask this. What you posted doesn't make any sense.
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