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Aerindel Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2015 Posts: 459 Location: Western Montana
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:10 pm Post subject: Well, that is annoying. |
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Parked my rig on a steep sidehill last night with a full fuel tank.
Tried to start it this morning and it wouldn't turn over. Checked the oil...it was halfway up the dipstick and smelled like gas.
Turned the crank backwards by hand to release the hydro lock and then ended up killing the battery trying to pump all the gas out.
Question is....do you think it was just the slope that made the carb leak or do I need to replace my float valve? _________________ Homemade woods/street, bug out rail. IRS, Balljoint front end. 1967 1600cc DP, Weber 32/36 progressive, tri-mil quiet pack. Rear only cutting brakes.
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Danwvw Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 8892 Location: Oregon Coast
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: Well, that is annoying. |
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There is likely more too it. But if you had the tank above the fuel pump it could run through it to the carb but should have been stopped by the float valve. Another possibility is that it somehow got directly in the crank csse but then how did it get in the heads to cause hydro lock. Well it's the float valve, it probably doesn't work on a slope either. Why may-be the float leans against the float bowl and stays a little low that way. _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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Aerindel Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:10 am Post subject: Re: Well, that is annoying. |
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I am talking about a 30º slope here...
This was a slope to the left, which is the side of the float bowl that the jets are on..it seems possible that the gas was simply draining out before the float could rise high enough to shut off the flow
But I don't know. Its certainly is annoying, now I have to get some other vehicle down this slope to recover it and do an oil change.
Just trying to figure out if this is a known problem that can happen with a functioning float valve or if its failed part. _________________ Homemade woods/street, bug out rail. IRS, Balljoint front end. 1967 1600cc DP, Weber 32/36 progressive, tri-mil quiet pack. Rear only cutting brakes.
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Danwvw Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Well, that is annoying. |
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I did not have a weber progressive on my 67 bug just pretty much stock PICT 30 but it would get gas in the oil if it got too cold. Happened several times with the car but I think it was happening when it was running. I wonder if some of the electric fuel pumps stop the gas when they're off? _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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Aerindel Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Well, that is annoying. |
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I wonder if some of the electric fuel pumps stop the gas when they're off? |
I wonder too. I know mine doesn't. Actually did it that way on purpose so I could run on gravity flow if my pump failed...that may not have been a great plan. _________________ Homemade woods/street, bug out rail. IRS, Balljoint front end. 1967 1600cc DP, Weber 32/36 progressive, tri-mil quiet pack. Rear only cutting brakes.
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Danwvw Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:11 am Post subject: Re: Well, that is annoying. |
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When I installed the CB-Performance Electric Pump on my VW Bus I put in a manual fuel shut off right where it comes from the fuel tank! It's just a brass gas valve from the hardware store. _________________ 1960 Beetle And 1679cc DP W-100 & Dual Zeniths! |
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
Joined: June 09, 2006 Posts: 2672 Location: West Coast (Michigan's)
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Aerindel Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: Well, that is annoying. |
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ORANGECRUSHer wrote: |
I always put a 1/4" stainless ball valve in my fuel line too. It comes in handy in situations like these you just have to be thinking in order for it to work though. |
Yeah, I have one too but I've never actually used it before except during engine work. _________________ Homemade woods/street, bug out rail. IRS, Balljoint front end. 1967 1600cc DP, Weber 32/36 progressive, tri-mil quiet pack. Rear only cutting brakes.
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