Help with carb damage (pic)

[richierich]

Just had engine delivered after 3000 mile journey and.....damage to one of the carbs (EMPI 48 IDA's)

Will i be able to get this something like back into shape and will it be likely to have caused any damage to critical parts?

Broken manifold aswell but going to get that welded.

[theDrew]

all replaceable.....wha happn'd?!
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[Heinz57]

Yes that linkage and arm is replaceable but get rid of the return spring on the carb. I guess you have another on the other carb too. Only use one where the cable attaches to the Hex bar arm. Having springs on the carbs wears out the throttle shaft bushings. Only should have the small spring that wraps around the throttle shaft.
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[richierich]

This is how I found it in the crate. Will I have to replace that whole shaft or will i be able to gently bend that tab back around straight?

[Dale M.]

Remove tab from throttle butterfly shaft before you try to massage it back to where you want it... If you are lucky butterfly shaft did not get bent.....

Heim joint and rods are all replaceable, any good parts place that deals with carburetors should lave parts.... CB Performance comes to mind....

Never mind what others say about return spring, its the most positive you can have (almost requirement on most sanctioned racing) , just be sure it is not to strong and it slams butterfly closes to hard and does not tire out your leg when driving.... I put these types of springs on all my dual carb engines...

IF you packed up the engine, it is sad, if someone else did it for shipping ask if they will help with the repairs...

Dale
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[vwracerdave]

I'd be calling the people that sent you the engine. Looks like the manifold was broken off at the flange.
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[Dale M.]

Are those holes in manifolds for Nitrous injectors?

Dale
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[richierich]

It was crated by the shippers in Miami and I am going to be speaking to the shippers tomorrow to try and get some money back.

I dont like messing with carbs at all really but i can remove that tab without the shaft all falling to pieces?

Dave - it did - the manifold broke at the bottom - its gone to a guy today who says he can weld it up.

[richierich]

[richierich]

Im confident i'll be able to straighten the rod but its the little tab thing im concerned about

[jfats808]

When I crate an engine, I don't put the carbs/manifolds on. I preset the linkage geometry before and remove before shipping. Also the box was poorly made. I flush the valve covers and run posts all the way down. This also helps for backing to screw to. Then a cross brace midway and on the top before capping it with ply cover. The box is built flush to the flywheel and front. He used straps which are fine. I usually use banding. Hope the shipper accommodates u. I would contact the seller also.
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[esde]

you might want to have the flange surface ground after welding to be sure that it's flat. At very least check it thoroughly.
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[richierich]

I have notified the shippers of my extreme distaste for their attempt to break my engine and am waiting to hear back.

In the meantime, I have to remove the cylinder head as the broken manifold may have dropped a bit of debris into the ports and want to be sure there's nothing in there. Assuming all equal and good, when re-fitting would you guys replace the pushrod tubes or just the seals? Will only be doing the one side...

[jfats808]

You have to look and see if there's any damage. The seals being that new shouldn't be a problem reinstalling. You have to inspect. If all checks out, I would reuse. You could buy new seals and have just in case.
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[richierich]

[richierich]

Ok - managed to straighten the bent tab on the throttle shaft arm (fortunately the shaft isn't bent) and the rod and got the welded manifold back - he's done a great job, you can't even tell its been repaired. Thanks so much for everyone's help with this.