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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 5:50 pm    Post subject: Painted hubcaps Reply with quote

Did standards have painted hubcaps?
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Painted hubcaps Reply with quote

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Did standards have painted hubcaps?

Yes
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I have a freak, but if I run down what my 49 has...
<< Deluxe >>
Brakes - Cable
Knobs - Ivory
Seats - Slide
Trim - Chrome
Steering Wheel - 3 spoke ivory
Door Lever, Hood Handle, Trunk Lever - Chrome
Window Crank - Chrome with ivory knob
Fender - Horn Rings
Horn - Inside fender
Horn Cover :: No
Horn Grills - 1 Per Fender
Floor Mats - None. Totally MIA
Inside Door Lever :: Chrome
Upholstery :: Full ~ Center, side widows, rear windows
Arm Rest :: I'd have to go look, and it's raining outside.
Transmission :: Crashbox
Dash Pods :: Ivory
Bumpers :: Chrome
Crotch Coolers :: N/A (Not Applicable)
Sunvisor :: Driver and Passengers, but I added the passengers
Pod & Glovebox Trim :: Yes, and I have glovebox doors
Glovebox Insert :: Fabric. Hole for clock winder on passengers side
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shane wrote:
Maybe I have a freak, but if I run down what my 49 has...
<< Deluxe >>
Brakes - Cable
Knobs - Ivory
Seats - Slide
Trim - Chrome
Steering Wheel - 3 spoke ivory
Door Lever, Hood Handle, Trunk Lever - Chrome
Window Crank - Chrome with ivory knob
Fender - Horn Rings
Horn - Inside fender
Horn Cover :: No
Horn Grills - 1 Per Fender
Floor Mats - None. Totally MIA
Inside Door Lever :: Chrome
Upholstery :: Full ~ Center, side widows, rear windows
Arm Rest :: I'd have to go look, and it's raining outside.
Transmission :: Crashbox
Dash Pods :: Ivory
Bumpers :: Chrome
Crotch Coolers :: N/A
Sunvisor :: Driver and Passengers, but I added the passengers
Pod & Glovebox Trim :: Yes, and I have glovebox doors
Glovebox Insert :: Fabric. Hole for clock winder on passengers side


If your car is a '49 Deluxe or Standard Model it won't have crotch coolers. Crotch coolers were only in production on Deluxe Models for a short period of time between mid '51 to mid '52.

Most of the other stuff you've listed is what is found on Deluxe Models with the exception of the ivory 3 spoke steering wheel. All the ivory goods on your car are found in black or Bakelite on most standards and the chrome painted.

Hydraulic brakes are found on Deluxes but not 100% sure when they were introduced, this could be correct for Deluxes from the '40s. Cable brakes were used on Standards through the oval era, not sure of the actual switch over but a buddy of mine has a '63 Standard with hydraulic brakes.

Here's a photo of my '52 and my buddies '63 side by side.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/978043.jpg
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've clarified the crotch cooler line.
I need to pull out the old birth certificate and check the build date. That might help clear up some of the time line for changes. I don't know if it makes much difference, but I also have a chromed rectangular mirror, which I always thought was a 1950 part.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shane wrote:
Maybe I have a freak, but if I run down what my 49 has...
<< Deluxe >>
Brakes - Cable
Knobs - Ivory
Seats - Slide
Trim - Chrome
Steering Wheel - 3 spoke ivory
Door Lever, Hood Handle, Trunk Lever - Chrome
Window Crank - Chrome with ivory knob
Fender - Horn Rings
Horn - Inside fender
Horn Cover :: No
Horn Grills - 1 Per Fender
Floor Mats - None. Totally MIA
Inside Door Lever :: Chrome
Upholstery :: Full ~ Center, side widows, rear windows
Arm Rest :: I'd have to go look, and it's raining outside.
Transmission :: Crashbox
Dash Pods :: Ivory
Bumpers :: Chrome
Crotch Coolers :: N/A (Not Applicable)
Sunvisor :: Driver and Passengers, but I added the passengers
Pod & Glovebox Trim :: Yes, and I have glovebox doors
Glovebox Insert :: Fabric. Hole for clock winder on passengers side


All those details came from May 49 on deluxes...
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny you should mention it. Mine has a May of 49 chassis number.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:30 pm    Post subject: VW front Hood emblem mounting Reply with quote

I sort of remember there being a picture of the little round seals that are used on the solid VW emblem on the top of the front hood.

IIRC they were made of the same rubber material as the running boards and were basically dime sized with a slit for the emblem mounting tangs to go through

Am I correct in thinking that the emblem sits directly on the painted hood with the mounting tangs poking through the holes in the hood, slip the seal over the tang on the underneath side of the hood and bend the tang over to hold the emblem in place?

I'm talking about this style of emblem: (picture from classifieds)

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

does 51 split have windshield trim?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kdfsalta wrote:
does 51 split have windshield trim?

As far as I know the only splits with any window rubber metal trim is the Zwitter, which was a transition year car that was only in production for a short time and has an oval dash with a lot of interesting model only tid bits throughout the car.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kdfsalta wrote:
does 51 split have windshield trim?


Yes, Export split got a trim for the windscreen rubber on 12th of April 1951 from chassis 1-0244668.
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: Split Standard vs Delux Differences? Reply with quote

I have a 2/51 non crotch cooler with holes for moldings. I guess from an earlier post it would be a 51 standard Canadian spec?
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: Split Standard vs Delux Differences? Reply with quote

Deluxes got the crotchcoilers from 13.04.1951. So earlier than that would be without.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: VW front Hood emblem mounting Reply with quote

nlorntson wrote:
I sort of remember there being a picture of the little round seals that are used on the solid VW emblem on the top of the front hood.

IIRC they were made of the same rubber material as the running boards and were basically dime sized with a slit for the emblem mounting tangs to go through

Am I correct in thinking that the emblem sits directly on the painted hood with the mounting tangs poking through the holes in the hood, slip the seal over the tang on the underneath side of the hood and bend the tang over to hold the emblem in place?

I'm talking about this style of emblem: (picture from classifieds)

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Did the split standards have the VW emblem on the hood? My '52 does not but it is a restored car and I do not know if it is correct.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Split Standard vs Delux Differences? Reply with quote

As far as I know, standards did not have the VW emblem on the hood. My 1951 Standard does not have an emblem.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: Split Standard vs Delux Differences? Reply with quote

Does anyone happen to know the difference in cost, percentage wise, between a standard and deluxe in 1952?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: Split Standard vs Delux Differences? Reply with quote

mbliss13 wrote:
As far as I know, standards did not have the VW emblem on the hood. My 1951 Standard does not have an emblem.

-Mike

Thanks Mike!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Split Standard vs Delux Differences? Reply with quote

Did the standards have the rear seat back rails (4)....?

Standards only have painted (black) window wiper bases, blades etc.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Split Standard vs Delux Differences? Reply with quote

I am seeing some standards with an "orange or reddish" color painted in the rim centers, (car is pearl gray with pearl gray rims, bumpers and hub caps). Does anyone know if the rims should be two tone or all gray?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Split Standard vs Delux Differences? Reply with quote

I believe April of 51 and later standards had two tone wheels. Poppy red is the color?

same goes for the belt-line pin stripe and the stripe in the bumpers.
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