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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the cylinders are a different length.
I don't have anything here to reference but I believe the difference is 1mm.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, the cylinders are a different length.
I don't have anything here to reference but I believe the difference is 1mm.


I've been researching this as I have uncovered some of the generic "ilco brand" blanks that are correct for the early barndoors. They (1950-2/28/54) use a shorter key as oposed to the later type 2's because there is only 4 tumblers vs 5. The later lock cylinders varied by diameter as well. A 13mm cylinder was correct for type 2's produced between 1/3/54 and 12/31/54. A 12mm diameter cylinder was then used for type 2's produced between 1/1/55 and 12/31/63.
This information matches Everett's and is taken form my NOS VW-Schlusseldienst Katalog.

I'll be posting a classified for the blanks shortly. Hope this helps, Gary.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:45 am    Post subject: key blank Reply with quote

Gary, do you mean this kind of key blank or an equivalent?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just posted a listing in the classifieds with photos.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vwman6559 wrote:
I just posted a listing in the classifieds with photos.


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Ilco 1062vo key blanks are correct for replacement keys on early Bardoor type 2's. they are shorter than the later blanks as the earlier cylinders (1950-2/28/1954) only used 4 wafers/pins as opposed to 5 on the later cylinders (3/1/1954-12/31/1954). These blanks are replacements to the originals refered to "volcano key".

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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4E6 means taylor 62VE or V68K key blank. the wafers in lock should be 45441


How does he know what wafers it takes?
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bill may wrote:
4E6 means taylor 62VE or V68K key blank. the wafers in lock should be 45441


How does he know what wafers it takes?


He probably looked it up in the key book.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ritchiet002 wrote:
bill may wrote:
4E6 means taylor 62VE or V68K key blank. the wafers in lock should be 45441


How does he know what wafers it takes?


He probably looked it up in the key book.


Is there a online source for the key book?
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ritchiet002 wrote:
EverettB wrote:
ritchiet002 wrote:
bill may wrote:
4E6 means taylor 62VE or V68K key blank. the wafers in lock should be 45441


How does he know what wafers it takes?


He probably looked it up in the key book.


Is there a online source for the key book?


As far as I know - No.
I have it but I consider it "secret info" so I didn't want to post it.
I wouldn't want someone to be able to cut a key for another member's car because they found out the key code.
I already know the key code and have keys to my friend's 23-Window because it's the same as one of my Buses. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Key codes Reply with quote

Has anyone got any info for the following code

E445

On my cargo door lock but non of the VW key guys in the UK seem to have any record of it.

Really wanted to get a key cut from code to save the issue of taking it apart
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Key codes Reply with quote

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Has anyone got any info for the following code

E445

On my cargo door lock but non of the VW key guys in the UK seem to have any record of it.

Really wanted to get a key cut from code to save the issue of taking it apart


I PM'd you the entry from my VW key book
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Key codes Reply with quote

I recently found these keys after my grandfathers 52 bus, I have yet to find the ignition key with the P code. But what I don't understand is that why do I have two different codes on these BUM keys? (the one that's flipped is also E223) I thought that doors and lids where the same key. Bear in mind that there has only been one barndoor in this family so far, so they are from the same bus.

These three keys where also hooked with two DOM keys, made in Germay, with a 5 digit number stamped. Do they have anything to do with each other?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: Key codes Reply with quote

Hi.

I have a Locked BD Engine lid Handle without a key.
Is there a way to find out what Key i need?
I donīt see a code on it, maybe because the Ring is over the Partnumber.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: Key codes Reply with quote

There is no key code on original Barndoor decklid handles based on the ones I have seen in the past.

Same with the driver's door handle.

The only key code is on the cargo door mechanism.

You must pick it, then you can disassemble it and look at the wafers.

Nice handle, the chrome is excellent.

Dealer replacement handles have the key code on the exposes shaft, right near the threaded portion of the handle.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: Key codes Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
There is no key code on original Barndoor decklid handles based on the ones I have seen in the past.

Same with the driver's door handle.

The only key code is on the cargo door mechanism.

You must pick it, then you can disassemble it and look at the wafers.

Nice handle, the chrome is excellent.

Dealer replacement handles have the key code on the exposes shaft, right near the threaded portion of the handle.



Thank you.

So i drilled out the outer part of the bolt and replace it with a later one.

Now i can see the part number, the vw and vulcano? Logo and a key number?

Can i Order anywhere here in europe a new key with this number?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:34 am    Post subject: Re: Key codes Reply with quote

Thanks for posting those new photos.
I was not aware some of them had a part # up the shaft like that but now that I look at another used one I have, it has markings in the same area.

I think beetlekey in Germany is one source for keys but I don't see any key blank ads from him right now:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?username=beetlekey
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Key codes Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
Thanks for posting those new photos.
I was not aware some of them had a part # up the shaft like that but now that I look at another used one I have, it has markings in the same area.

I think beetlekey in Germany is one source for keys but I don't see any key blank ads from him right now:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?username=beetlekey


No Problem!

Thank you for the contakt with beetlekey, i write him a Mail.

-Christian
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