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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:01 am Post subject: Frame repair |
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Hello. I'm new to 356s. Need some assistance on frame repair. I have a '62 with some major rust. 1st question is around rear frame panels from stoddards. What exact area do these cover? Here is s link to sections.
http://www.stoddard.com/64450108506-nla.html
2nd questions is around main longitudinals. Is there a repair panel? I've seen the under longitudinals panel and the inner rocker panel, but is there a "main panel" available aftermarket? here is a pic of my car
Thanks _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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MMW Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2012 Posts: 846 Location: northern NJ
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Frame repair |
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Wow that is some rust you have there. Some other suppliers of panels are Restoration Design & Zims Porsche parts. Even the repro panels may need some rework to fit correctly & some stuff needs to be made as is can't be bought.
Hopefully someone will help you here but you can find lots of pics & info in the restoration section of the below link. Lots of projects going on with the same types of repairs you are asking about. Very detailed photos & advice.
http://www.abcgt.com/forum/14-356-Restoration-Projects.html _________________ Mic
1959 356 coupe
Missing the original engine 72488
Update - third pc. found!
Now just need the case halves.
1965 fenderless beetle |
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Frame repair |
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It's honestly pretty bad. The passenger side has some integrity but the drivers is completely gone back toward torsion. It can barely support its own weight.
I'm trying to decide if it's fixable. If not, I'm thinking about putting a tube frame under it. _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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MMW Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2012 Posts: 846 Location: northern NJ
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Frame repair |
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Everything is fixable but you need the time & patience to do it or if you have a ton of money to throw at it you can send it to someone to do it for you.
How complete was the car when you got it? If it was complete it may be worth it to restore it to original as will bring you the best price for resale. If you just want to use it & have fun then do what it takes to get it on the road.
Here is a 356 being built with a tube frame.
http://www.abcgt.com/forum/6-Hot-Rod--Modified-356/16-1958-356A-TURBO-Coupe.html _________________ Mic
1959 356 coupe
Missing the original engine 72488
Update - third pc. found!
Now just need the case halves.
1965 fenderless beetle |
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Frame repair |
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hi, MMW. it was a bone clean shell. every part able to be removed was. not looking to restore just want to make it a fun (road worthy) car as you mentioned.
was struggling with adding a tube frame and taking away from "value" as a true Porsche.
I like that ad. I ran across it while searching. Would be great to get some type of a template to make that tube frame from. _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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type4split Samba Member
Joined: May 23, 2007 Posts: 681 Location: Hamilton, Indiana
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Frame repair |
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I need some help for frame repair panels. above is my car.
how do I find out where these parts fit?
http://www.stoddard.com/64450108505-nla.html _________________ '67 deluxe bus w/the little windows
'52 beetle
'55 convertible
'50-something convertible (*need ribbed 'vert quarter panel )
'63 "milo" beetle
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Unobtanium-inc Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2007 Posts: 345 Location: Upstate NY
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mr white Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2005 Posts: 1193 Location: beautiful Oregon & Mohave County, AZ
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Frame repair |
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What I would like to see regarding any year of 356 is measurements to assemble any car from multiple sections. Make one car from a few pieces. |
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James Davies Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2013 Posts: 141 Location: Baltimore, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Frame repair |
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Mr White, the Porsche Workshop Manuals have dimensional drawings in them in Section B "Repairs and Inspection" that give most of the dimensions you would need. At least the 1954 and 1956 versions do. I suspect the later ones do as well. |
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roy mawbey Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2012 Posts: 397 Location: Sussex England
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Frame repair |
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The last 356A factory manual does have the drawing measurements for T2 cars. I looked at your photo's and link versions. Mic is correct the abcgt forum and Justin's restorations are the ones to look at. But.... while nearly everything is possible these days and a completed running 356 is great, that repair work is more than the normal guy would normally attempt or, it looks that way to me.
If you have access to everything needed tool wise, as well as cash wise and you have estimated the sort of time to do it factor, and you have the working experience to proceed then, it could then become your ambition to transform it. But remember repair panels do not always just fit in place, you really need a rotissorie to mount it on and those torsion bar area datums look pretty rusty to me...
Really, the best of luck if you proceed. its easy to say ' you can do it ' when its so important to think carefully first' can I do it!'
Roy
Roy _________________ Roy
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